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by 2bizE
Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why go to a "Membership Council?"
Replies: 14
Views: 200

Re: Why go to a "Membership Council?"

So, instead of paying tithing to a near trillion dollar corporation, Natasha can support charities that really need the funding? What were the downsides of membership withdrawal?
by 2bizE
Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 2020 numbers
Replies: 34
Views: 1181

Re: The 2020 numbers

I wonder what tweak the church will make next to bolster membership numbers? I think they will make some adjustments down and blame COVID. Why of course our Baptisms are down! Of course of course of course! Our missionaries were under lockdown and our program displaced. Never let a good opportunity...
by 2bizE
Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 2020 numbers
Replies: 34
Views: 1181

Re: The 2020 numbers

One thing of importance to note is how the children are counted today. Prior to 1989, the church didn’t count members until they were baptized. Then, in an effort to increase membership numbers, the method was changed to include children born to member families. I wonder what tweak the church will m...
by 2bizE
Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Tomb for Joseph Smith discovered
Replies: 5
Views: 217

Re: New Tomb for Joseph Smith discovered

Red Ryder wrote:
Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:13 pm
A collection of 1800’s women’s garments? :lol:
Maybe that is where they kept Joseph’s stash of pornographic Daguerreotypes?
by 2bizE
Mon Apr 19, 2021 10:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Tomb for Joseph Smith discovered
Replies: 5
Views: 217

New Tomb for Joseph Smith discovered

What do you think will be found inside of it?
Golden plates?
More seer stones?
More treasure digging stuff?

https://www.ksl.com/article/50149491/ut ... seph-smith
by 2bizE
Sun Apr 18, 2021 5:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1850

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

I bet they don’t offer a ruling tonight. I bet they will send her a letter in a few days with their decision after they consult with their appointed 70.
by 2bizE
Sun Apr 18, 2021 3:02 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is Dallin Oaks the worst of the current leaders?
Replies: 9
Views: 308

Re: Is Dallin Oaks the worst of the current leaders?

I think Oaks is still by far the worst. He has harmed more people than any of the others. His last conference talk was an anomaly. He took a break from harming our gay friends to provide some necessary bashing of our republican, Trump lover members. He is preparing for his reign of power where most ...
by 2bizE
Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:59 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 75
Views: 1850

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

I don't know much about Natasha -- is she an active, believing Mormon? I was under the impression that she was mentally out and trying to find a way to help the community. This is mostly surprising to me because I don't think NHP has been trying to get people out of the church, so to discipline som...
by 2bizE
Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The true order of tithing
Replies: 21
Views: 585

Re: The true order of tithing

Rock Waterman has a good post on his blog about the history of tithing and what it actually means. You can read it at http://puremormonism.blogspot.com/2012/12/are-we-paying-too-much-tithing.html It should be no surprise that historical meaning doesn't jive with church culture today. No longer a hu...
by 2bizE
Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The true order of tithing
Replies: 21
Views: 585

Re: The true order of tithing

So a few years ago I was medically separated from the Army after having a heart attack out of the blue. While I do get a stipend which I am grateful for it is nowhere near what I was earning. It got to the point where we couldn't make ends meet and pay tithing. Around this same time was when the st...
by 2bizE
Wed Apr 14, 2021 8:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The true order of tithing
Replies: 21
Views: 585

Re: The true order of tithing

I remember many lessons where teaching about tithing and someone asked whether we were to pay on Gross or Net income, people would say “It depends on whether you want to receive gross or net blessings”.
by 2bizE
Tue Apr 13, 2021 12:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Scores - April 2021
Replies: 7
Views: 223

Re: NOMference Scores - April 2021

So, for the first time ever Oaks ended with a positive score??
by 2bizE
Tue Apr 13, 2021 8:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormonism my way ?
Replies: 12
Views: 427

Re: Mormonism my way ?

Im considering showing up to church in a golf shirt and Jean's. Not doing any talks or taking any callings having it my way !!! Also considering trying to get excommunicated down the road!! Any thoughts on having it my way ? A long fall from grace after serving in the branch presidency, EQ presiden...
by 2bizE
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church updates handbook.
Replies: 21
Views: 853

Re: Church updates handbook.

The deacons are now 11 year olds. Going door to door in a world of online payments. Knock knock: (in a prepubescent voice) Hello, I’m Deacon Jones from the Salt Lake 78th ward. Can you donate to our fast and furious fund? Sister Smith: we pay online now. Prepubescent Deacon: OK thanks! See you next...
by 2bizE
Mon Apr 12, 2021 7:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The true order of tithing
Replies: 21
Views: 585

The true order of tithing

There was a lot of discussion on Bishop Graey’s thread, so I thought I would start a new one on tithing. I have not yet gone non-tithe paying, but I did skip tithing settlement this last year. I thought I would talk about how tithing should be paid: the true order of tithing, or tithing in the sure ...
by 2bizE
Mon Apr 12, 2021 10:01 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 123
Views: 4548

Re: Forced Turning Point

Raising my right arm to the square....I 2BizE solemnly swear to support Graey as Bishop of his ward and a representative of NOM. I support him ordaining his wife to the Aaronic priesthood as a priestess to support him in this journey. I also support him declining to conduct tithing settlement at the...
by 2bizE
Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 2020 numbers
Replies: 34
Views: 1181

Re: The 2020 numbers

I'm sure you've seen this: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/april-2021-general-conference-statistical-report Based on these numbers, the average full time missionary baptized less than 2 and a half converts in the year. Each ward or branch grew an average of 4 converts for the year,...
by 2bizE
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?
Replies: 641
Views: 147040

Re: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?

I was able to get the Pfizer vaccine last year before Christmas. I had some minor fatigue with my second dose that lasted about a day or so.
by 2bizE
Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Makings of a good Preacher?
Replies: 2
Views: 172

Re: Makings of a good Preacher?

Mormon Apologist: what does age really matter in the grand, eternal concept of time. In the eternities, it won’t matter. Sure, the girl was several months shy of her 18th birthday, but age is just a social construct.
by 2bizE
Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The 2020 numbers
Replies: 34
Views: 1181

Re: The 2020 numbers

I'm sure you've seen this: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/april-2021-general-conference-statistical-report Based on these numbers, the average full time missionary baptized less than 2 and a half converts in the year. Each ward or branch grew an average of 4 converts for the year,...