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by 2bizE
Wed Jan 25, 2023 9:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 12
Views: 234

Re: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

I think this is just another story of the church doctrine collapsing from within. There are plenty of examples, but a few include: 1) Book of Abraham- the church held onto the theory that the BoA was translated directly from the papyrus….until it finally agreed with Egyptologists that the papyrus wa...
by 2bizE
Mon Jan 23, 2023 9:24 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.
Replies: 12
Views: 234

The Great Apostasy didn’t really happen according to new Maxwell Institute book.

The SLTrib ran an article today from Peggy Fletcher-Stack about a new book out of the Maxwell Institute explaining that Mormons get the Great Apostasy wrong. Here are some excerpts. Let the gaslighting from TBMs begin. “Latter-day Saints generally believe that Jesus established a church during his m...
by 2bizE
Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Changes I have seen. Does anyone agree?
Replies: 17
Views: 658

Re: Changes I have seen. Does anyone agree?

Don’t forget that young women can now hand out towels at the temple baptistery. Big steps.
by 2bizE
Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Thoughts on priesthood blessings and feeling the spirit meaning the church is true
Replies: 23
Views: 352

Re: Thoughts on priesthood blessings and feeling the spirit meaning the church is true

I’ve evolved on priesthood blessings. I see them like more of a pep talk. Think of how invigorating a great half time speech by Knute Rockne (think the locker room speech in the movie Rudy). These can be inspirational, give you chills, and make you believe in the cause. If healing blessings really w...
by 2bizE
Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Consciousness
Replies: 28
Views: 440

Re: Consciousness

This is probably not the same topic, but when I think of the brain and consciousness I often think of Battlestar Galactica. There is a scene where they have to reach into the brain of a Cylon. It has been too long to remember what they were doing, but touching certain areas helped them connect. Well...
by 2bizE
Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:55 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormonism unchecked
Replies: 9
Views: 318

Mormonism unchecked

I was ponderizing a few weeks ago about what the church would be like today if after moving out west with BY, the church was able to create its own country rather than the Utah area, previously Mexico becoming part of the USA. What would the church look like it it was unchecked from the norms of a n...
by 2bizE
Mon Dec 19, 2022 2:50 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you label yourself regarding your belief?
Replies: 43
Views: 1370

How do you label yourself regarding your belief?

When I first joined NOM a few years ago, I was much more fluid in my spiritual beliefs. I was still part TBM and trying to find my way forward… Today, I am still trying to find my way forward. I have a difficult time calling myself an atheist for some reason. I really don’t believe anything in the c...
by 2bizE
Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: WTF
Replies: 3
Views: 351

Re: WTF

What was the end result? Did it turn white and delightsome and stay that way?
by 2bizE
Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sam Young’s Crusade continues
Replies: 8
Views: 470

Re: Sam Young’s Crusade continues

I agree with his reasoning here: I started speaking out when I realized that Davis was a registered sex offender from Utah and, despite this, he was put in a position of authority in our local congregation. This fact raised two concerns: The LDS Church teaches that church leaders have the "gift of ...
by 2bizE
Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sam Young’s Crusade continues
Replies: 8
Views: 470

Sam Young’s Crusade continues

I saw this article on Reddit and thought I would place it here. It is about a man’s journey to protect children when the church is trying to protect the predator…you’ve heard the story…same story different day. https://www.postbulletin.com/news/local/rochester-church-of-latter-day-saints-member-spea...
by 2bizE
Wed Dec 14, 2022 4:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Relaxed mission attire
Replies: 21
Views: 879

Re: Relaxed mission attire

Conman52 wrote:
Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:48 am
I'm still a Styx fan !!!!
As am I
by 2bizE
Tue Dec 13, 2022 1:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Relaxed mission attire
Replies: 21
Views: 879

Re: Relaxed mission attire

Seems the white shirts and ties have become a negative brand image. This means people in Europe will no longer have the visual cue to cross to the other side of the street when they spot missionaries up ahead. I think the European people and all people of the world will quickly adapt to identity ot...
by 2bizE
Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Declining church-goers and creative changes
Replies: 6
Views: 337

Declining church-goers and creative changes

Here is a good read about how some churches are responding to the declining number of church-goers.
Do you envision any similar/ creative ideas like these from the LDS church?

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/10/11410103 ... worshipper
by 2bizE
Sun Nov 27, 2022 3:01 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: US Religion Census and the LDS church
Replies: 11
Views: 569

US Religion Census and the LDS church

The SL Tribune posted an article about survey results on churches in America. The method for data collection was simply to ask each church how many members attended. Some results from the LDS church reflect the church’s ongoing commitment to inaccuracy. A few key figures to mention. “For the LDS Chu...
by 2bizE
Fri Nov 18, 2022 5:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church supports marriage equality
Replies: 21
Views: 1340

Re: Church supports marriage equality

Sounds like the brethren have ungirded their loins just enough to find some space for LGBTQ fairness…
I wonder if there is space in there for giving women the priesthood….I’m pretty sure Oaks has all sorts of space under his loin cloth to make room for some healthy changes.
by 2bizE
Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church supports marriage equality
Replies: 21
Views: 1340

Re: Church supports marriage equality

To me it really feels like TSCC is talking out both sides of it's mouth...again! They want the mainstream popularity and acceptance in the media while still holding on to their bigotry practices. I'm guessing their surveys to members have also helped put the pressure on doing this. How can they sup...
by 2bizE
Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Russel Nelson and the 2nd Great Apostacy
Replies: 17
Views: 1064

Re: Russel Nelson and the 2nd Great Apostacy

I was watching the Bednar press conference that wtfluff linked in another thread. Bednar said President Nelson was very brave in making the commitment that "we will no longer use a pejorative nickname that was attached to us by our enemies." The wicked apostates Hinkley and Monson must certainly ra...
by 2bizE
Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Original Doctrines
Replies: 17
Views: 770

Re: Original Doctrines

... I hadn't heard that, but it sounds right on track. I once got a special behind-the-scenes tour of the SL temple by a sealer who took me to a spot above the Holy of Holies (if I remember correctly) and told that was where Talmage wrote Jesus the Christ. He spoke about it with such awe and revere...
by 2bizE
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Finances and the CBC
Replies: 18
Views: 1092

Re: Church Finances and the CBC

“They’re a business dabbling in religion.”
Yep.
by 2bizE
Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Another Temple Facepalm
Replies: 12
Views: 910

Re: Another Temple Facepalm

Is it just me, or does it seem like a number of these temples are being announced in areas where the church is shrinking. Is temple building being used to replace missionary work or retention of members?