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by Rob4Hope
Sat May 25, 2019 8:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 19
Views: 336

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

The middle way does not exist because the church closed it. I was a middle way Mormon for about 40 years. But that way of being in the church because you want to be, even if you don’t believe ALL of it, has been closed off. The church wants you church broke or out. It doesn’t want to waste time wit...
by Rob4Hope
Sat May 25, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New GRAMA Request to BYUPD
Replies: 21
Views: 1197

Re: New GRAMA Request to BYUPD

I'm posting here to keep this from dropping off the list.

I've not heard/seen anything new on this. Does anyone have info on the appeal going on? Any tidbits of gossip floating around?
by Rob4Hope
Fri May 24, 2019 7:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Disclaimer Notices
Replies: 8
Views: 251

Re: Disclaimer Notices

Some advice for the COB watchers. Whenever a leader says something they need to attach a disclaimer. I give them three options. This is opinion, policy or revelation/doctrine. Would avoid confusion and all the speculation about every word they utter Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oh, I agree, b...
by Rob4Hope
Tue May 21, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RMN meets with NZ prime minister
Replies: 20
Views: 532

Re: RMN meets with NZ prime minister

"She's courageous," he said, adding, "The world will discover they've got a real leader here. It's an unlikely scenario, a young mother leading a great nation, a peacemaker, a policymaker, a consensus-builder. We're very confident she'll have a great future." This is a very disturbing and offensive...
by Rob4Hope
Mon May 20, 2019 7:25 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Near Death
Replies: 15
Views: 506

Re: Near Death

I would love to hear a response to Dean Radin's experiment I posted above. The one thing I can say for absolutely certainty is this: science can NOT explain consciousness. Nor can they explain the interaction between consciousness, whatever that is, and the world, particularly things like the "obser...
by Rob4Hope
Fri May 17, 2019 12:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Materialism In LDS Culture
Replies: 12
Views: 442

Re: Materialism In LDS Culture

This is compounded by the "heads I win, tails you lose" philosophy of being seeing blessings in people's lives: I couldn't agree with you more. The outcome is fixed by perspective. I've noticed this, and it drives be nucking-futs!.... Take priesthood blessings. Someone gets blessed. No healing. Wel...
by Rob4Hope
Fri May 17, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Materialism In LDS Culture
Replies: 12
Views: 442

Re: Materialism In LDS Culture

It's one of the major tenets of the BoM. If you keep the commandments of God, you will be prospered in the land. The book says it over and over. I think the LDS church can move away from it, but they can't discount this idea as fundamental in their theology, just as they can't discount the curse of ...
by Rob4Hope
Fri May 17, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Near Death
Replies: 15
Views: 506

Re: Near Death

Brian Cox on ghosts Let’s move on to some sillier questions. One time you said that the Large Hadron Collider disproves the existence of ghosts. But what if ghosts were made out of dark matter, like axions? BC: It’s missing the point. In order to have a ghost, there must be some thing that interact...
by Rob4Hope
Thu May 16, 2019 2:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Near Death
Replies: 15
Views: 506

Re: Near Death

Science does support several things, including the effect consciousness has on matter and energy. Quantum mechanics wouldn't even exist were it not for some of this science. In the realm of reality, it is impossible to say current explanations explain NDE events. One of the rather convincing argumen...
by Rob4Hope
Thu May 09, 2019 12:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: D&C 132 - Celestial Kingdom loophole?
Replies: 16
Views: 375

Re: D&C 132 - Celestial Kingdom loophole?

"Sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise" is MORmON-code for the second anointing. (For those in "the know.") If you aren't part of the "in crowd" who's pays enough bucks, and has the right connections, you don't get a golden ticket/pass to Super VIP Heaven. Since most believers don't even know about ...
by Rob4Hope
Thu May 09, 2019 5:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What is True and What Isn't?
Replies: 24
Views: 487

Re: What is True and What Isn't?

Good job Caylee! You successfully ran away from all that uncomfortable and painful cogdis and got sucked right back into the tribe so you didn't have to face all those awful scary facts! The truth is...you are a coward and took the easier path, thus making yourself the perfect poster child for TSCC...
by Rob4Hope
Wed May 08, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: D&C 132 - Celestial Kingdom loophole?
Replies: 16
Views: 375

Re: D&C 132 - Celestial Kingdom loophole?

I was taught by Phillip Sontag of the 70 that this sealing is the 2nd anointing. But it gives cart-blanch on murder. If you read 132 carefully, it says that murder is shedding innocent blood. BUT!!!!!! If you read in the New Testament, EVERYONE has sinned and comes short of the glory of God. Hence, ...
by Rob4Hope
Wed May 08, 2019 7:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What is True and What Isn't?
Replies: 24
Views: 487

Re: What is True and What Isn't?

Has anybody seen this little gem yet? It's been circulating around some of the youth Facebook pages, although without much commentary from the youth or the leaders. And I'm sure not going to add what I think. https://www.lds.org/youth/article/what-is-true-and-what-isnt?lang=eng&clang=urd If you don...
by Rob4Hope
Mon May 06, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prescription for Coffee
Replies: 5
Views: 298

Re: Prescription for Coffee

felixfabulous wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 12:39 pm
Anyone know of a NOM-friendly doctor in the Salt Lake area who would be down to write a prescription for coffee/tea? Very silly I know, but I'm getting really sick of sneaking around and this may give me some breathing room.
I'm chuckling after reading this....

Dude...I would write your own.
by Rob4Hope
Mon May 06, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: No more year wait for sealing after civil marriage!
Replies: 15
Views: 359

Re: No more year wait for sealing after civil marriage!

And the one I never would have thought in a million years...... the unraveling of the LDS church as it shifts to turn the tide of its hemorrhaging membership. It's true Rob, so many amazing changes in technology and all the social ones as well over my lifetime. When I started in the tech industry i...
by Rob4Hope
Mon May 06, 2019 1:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: No more year wait for sealing after civil marriage!
Replies: 15
Views: 359

Re: No more year wait for sealing after civil marriage!

This one was expected for a while, and finally it happens. What's sad is those who were hurt by the original policy. There was a lot of shame associated with that: "YOU should have gotten married IN THE TEMPLE!".....rhetoric. Every now and then I have "oh wow!!!" moments. It happens when I take a mo...
by Rob4Hope
Fri May 03, 2019 10:06 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Article on Early Returning Missionaries
Replies: 11
Views: 521

Re: Article on Early Returning Missionaries

I remember coming home and hearing my friends (who came home a little earlier) stand up and say, with gushing emotions, "It was the BEST 2 years of my life!". I remember sitting there and thinkin...oh sh!t. If that is the best 2 years,...I had better kill myself now, cuz I ain't got nothing to look...
by Rob4Hope
Thu May 02, 2019 2:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Article on Early Returning Missionaries
Replies: 11
Views: 521

Re: Article on Early Returning Missionaries

With the pickup on weekly communication we have been able to discern that our missionary son is completely sick of his mission. If it were truly up to him, I think he would come home. But he's been out over 20 months so there's not much left and I am sure he will just finish out. He's not very happ...
by Rob4Hope
Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Article on Early Returning Missionaries
Replies: 11
Views: 521

Re: Article on Early Returning Missionaries

The article also points out some statistics of those returning early. It appears that 1/3 are coming home early and the reasons are increasingly doctrinal. Certainly emotional and physical health are prominent reasons for an early exit, but some basic issues of testimony are on the rise. During my ...
by Rob4Hope
Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Article on Early Returning Missionaries
Replies: 11
Views: 521

Re: Article on Early Returning Missionaries

Seems like a healthier perspective than usual. 1/3?! That’s a lot! As a teen, I did splits for a one day missionary event and this guy we came across really questioned what we were doing. He was like, “How would you like me and others to go around telling YOU what to believe? I don’t do that to you...