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by deacon blues
Mon Jun 24, 2019 3:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Went to Church
Replies: 7
Views: 164

Re: Went to Church

I attended Sacrament meeting with my wife, and then slipped down the St. Judas church in Draper. Honestly, there were uplifting parts in both services. The first Sac. Mtg. talk was an assigned Conference talk rehash :( , but the second talk took the old pop song "He Ain't Heavy He's My Brother, and ...
by deacon blues
Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lost 16 Pages
Replies: 4
Views: 235

Re: Lost 16 Pages

Consig makes the important point that those 16 pages, which definitely were written on, might contain an account that predates the "1832" History. To me this seems more likely, because of the remaining letters copied into the book date from 1829-1835. Why would a book be turned over before it was fi...
by deacon blues
Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:55 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The spirit
Replies: 8
Views: 488

Re: The spirit

I enjoyed that Tedtalk, Angel. I think the Church wants us to believe spirituality and religion are the same thing; when we feel an “elevated feeling” or a “higher power” it means “the Church is true.” My experience is there are exceptions to this- a lot of exceptions.
by deacon blues
Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Near Death
Replies: 19
Views: 865

Re: Near Death

NDE’s, and especially incidents of out of body travel could be used as evidence for something. I like to think that there is something to them. My TBM wife and agnostic son couldn’t care less, so it’s good to see some discussion about them. Thanks for the thread. 🤗🤔
by deacon blues
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gay Pride Flags
Replies: 8
Views: 338

Re: Gay Pride Flags

I’m happy to report that I saw a pride flag on my morning walk yesterday. Gives new meaning to Sandy community pride. 🤗
by deacon blues
Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The spirit
Replies: 8
Views: 488

Re: The spirit

Interesting. Here is another discussion: Interpreting Emotions: 5 Faulty Messages You Got in Primary https://www.postmormonmentalhealth.com/blog/emotions-5-faulty-messages/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=SocialWarfare&fbclid=IwAR0OkbrU64kPnESP6LZuWBlLDKF-kufRQQ9Jw2CiPP_a7HoaFX_A...
by deacon blues
Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The spirit
Replies: 8
Views: 488

Re: The spirit

Interesting. Here is another discussion: Interpreting Emotions: 5 Faulty Messages You Got in Primary https://www.postmormonmentalhealth.com/blog/emotions-5-faulty-messages/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=SocialWarfare&fbclid=IwAR0OkbrU64kPnESP6LZuWBlLDKF-kufRQQ9Jw2CiPP_a7HoaFX_A...
by deacon blues
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gay Pride Flags
Replies: 8
Views: 338

Re: Gay Pride Flags

I didn’t see any flags in Sandy. I wasn’t really watching for them. I watched it on the news. It looked like a great turnout.
by deacon blues
Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Anybody marching in the pride parade today?
Replies: 5
Views: 233

Re: Anybody marching in the pride parade today?

Way to be, Hagoth. I saw it on the news. I’m interested in the Oasis Community. What’s it about? When/where do they meet?
by deacon blues
Fri May 31, 2019 8:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?
Replies: 27
Views: 633

Re: Lively discussion for NBI: Fighting for Jesus; where do we cross the line?

Let's define the mormon church by what it claims to be: God's kingdom on earth, led by prophets who are guided directly by God himself. The only path to the celestial kingdom. The only place you can find ALL good. I expect(ed) that organization to be moral and transparent and to help people. Why? W...
by deacon blues
Mon May 20, 2019 6:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New blog post- "But My Experience Was So Good!"
Replies: 16
Views: 613

Re: New blog post- "But My Experience Was So Good!"

This is a wonderful piece. I think of Boy Scouts. Some kids seemed to thrive in it, and for others like me, it was OK. I felt bad for the two brothers in my Explorers group whose dad insisted that they couldn’t get their drivers licence until they were Eagles. They were great kids and it all worked ...
by deacon blues
Sat May 18, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: My 8 year olds faith crisis
Replies: 6
Views: 346

Re: My 8 year olds faith crisis

My daughter was just baptized this past Saturday. In therapy today (she has a lot of anxiety, so we go for that) she told her therapist she has been praying to feel the spirit, and she hasn’t felt it yet. She said “god hasn’t answered any prayers.” I would arrogantly try to give her two pieces of a...
by deacon blues
Fri May 17, 2019 8:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Russell's Long Journey out of Mormonism
Replies: 24
Views: 1613

Re: Russell's Long Journey out of Mormonism

This may have been expressed before, but it occurred to me that Pres. Nelson's emphasis on the sin of saying the "Mormon Church" instead of "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" just gives TBM's one more thing to feel offended and persecuted by. Gnats and Camels. :roll:
by deacon blues
Sat May 11, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Martinsburg Abuse Coverup Case
Replies: 39
Views: 2339

Re: Martinsburg Abuse Coverup Case

The old man that tried to take the lady's cell phone was way out of line. It's a sad situation. :cry:
by deacon blues
Sat May 11, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah
Replies: 12
Views: 404

Re: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah

Very smooth, nibbler. ;) 2 problems. 1. Nephi 1:4 says Lehi heard all the other prophets prophesy Jerusalem's destruction, prayed and received his vision/dream- all during the first year of Zedekiah's reign. 2. Jeremiah tells us (Jeremiah 14:13-16, 23:16-40) the other prophets, besides Jeremiah, wer...
by deacon blues
Fri May 10, 2019 2:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah
Replies: 12
Views: 404

Re: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah

Lehi left after Nebuchadnezzar’s putting Zedekiah on the throne and taking 10,000 captives back to Babylon, including bible figures like Daniel, Shadrach and those two other furnace survivors. Babylon records, which are considered reliable (they align with eclipses, etc.) tell us this was the year 5...
by deacon blues
Thu May 09, 2019 6:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah
Replies: 12
Views: 404

Re: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah

This is from the Wiki article on Zedekiah: Chronological notes The Babylonian Chronicles give 2 Adar (16 March), 597 BC, as the date that Nebuchadnezzar captured Jerusalem, thus putting an end to the reign of Jehoaichin.[10] Zedekiah's installation as king by Nebuchadnezzar can therefore be firmly d...
by deacon blues
Thu May 09, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah
Replies: 12
Views: 404

Re: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah

I found this in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism. EXTERNAL CHRONOLOGY. Evidence supports two possible lengths for Nephite years: 365 days and 360 days. Each can be correlated to external history. The internal chronology is consistent, so that if the exact nature of the Nephite calendar were known, only...
by deacon blues
Thu May 09, 2019 3:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dating the BOM and Zedekiah
Replies: 12
Views: 404

Dating the BOM and Zedekiah

I was checking Wikipedia about the siege of Jerusalem and found this little fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(597_BC) This grabbed my attention. If the first siege of Jerusalem was 597 BC, and then Zedekiah was installed by Nebuchanezzar, then the 600 BC date for Lehi and famil...
by deacon blues
Thu May 09, 2019 9:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 26
Views: 1089

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

A few months ago our grandson asked his mom, "When's my birthday?" "Feb. 15," she replied. "No way, that's the same day as last year!" he exclaimed. :D