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by hiding in plain sight
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Ouch...I think?
Replies: 12
Views: 457

Re: Ouch...I think?

Good for you to speak your mind, even though there is pain in the journey as well.
by hiding in plain sight
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Book of Abraham
Replies: 48
Views: 1321

Re: Book of Abraham

Look here and scroll down to the middle for two examples of the same kind of picture with legs moving.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/vie ... &start=273

Look here and also scroll half way down for another example.

https://www.ldsdiscussions.com/bookofabraham
by hiding in plain sight
Fri May 17, 2019 3:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Materialism In LDS Culture
Replies: 12
Views: 681

Re: Materialism In LDS Culture

When I lived in the seattle area. One of the wards in the stake taught a sunday school lesson and used the symbol of dollars raining down from heaven as a sign of their righteousness. I was just dumbfounded how blatant they were in calling out their righteousness through their wealth. But that is a ...
by hiding in plain sight
Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What was your first NOM thought?
Replies: 46
Views: 2170

Re: What was your first NOM thought?

When I was preparing for my mission and praying to get a testimony I recognized that I might NOT get an answer. I was open to the possibility that it may not be true. Now don't get me wrong. I thought it was true. I wanted it to be true. And I was praying as if it was true. But I remember thinking a...
by hiding in plain sight
Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Who's the trickster?
Replies: 11
Views: 583

Re: Who's the trickster?

God is the trickster in mormonism. All starting in the garden of eden with the multiply and replenish the earth, but don't partake of the fruit. Two commandments which both could not be kept. All the way to D&C 19 where he tells us that he only told us that hell was real to keep us motivated, but he...
by hiding in plain sight
Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I love my wife
Replies: 8
Views: 372

Re: I love my wife

Hagoth wrote:
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:13 am
I think I love your wife too, HIPS!
I didn't know you were into polyandry. :-)
by hiding in plain sight
Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I love my wife
Replies: 8
Views: 372

Re: I love my wife

Now, in the Mormon church, those women in mixed faith marriages are second class of the second class. I don’t know if being a second class woman multiplies the second class status, merely adds it, or cubes it. I suspect it cubes it making women married to non members 8th class, but at a minimum it ...
by hiding in plain sight
Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:42 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I love my wife
Replies: 8
Views: 372

I love my wife

It has been about 10 years since I woke up to the church's truth issues. In that time my TBM wife and I have had an interesting walk together. The first couple of years were ones of just enduring the change. Then there was the great awakening on my part that I was a jerk and needed to lean in more a...
by hiding in plain sight
Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Incontestable!
Replies: 15
Views: 778

Re: Incontestable!

It's also incontestable that the Book of Mormon plagiarizes at least 15.5% of its verses from the bible and writings that were written hundreds and sometimes thousands of years in the future. Not sure how accurate of a history that is. As well as ancient american prophets were able to channel 19th c...
by hiding in plain sight
Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:55 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Deja vu all over again
Replies: 5
Views: 401

Re: Deja vu all over again

Good to see you sojo. What an amazing journey with so many coming along and waking up. How is the relationship with your father and siblings since they are still in? I have 4 kids of which 3 are out with their spouses and 3 grandchildren. Who would have guessed. But my wife continues to be TBM and i...
by hiding in plain sight
Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: More Conversation with DW
Replies: 11
Views: 607

Re: More Conversation with DW

I didn’t know what else to say, I can’t convince her of the reasons I’m depressed. Much more we talked about, some of her issues she has with me, like how she feels that I'm more arrogant now. She definitely has some valid beefs with me, I won't deny those. I don't feel like going into it all here....
by hiding in plain sight
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you reading right now?
Replies: 15
Views: 604

Re: What are you reading right now?

On Book 8 of the wheel of time.
by hiding in plain sight
Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Faith Crisis Contagion
Replies: 9
Views: 669

Re: Faith Crisis Contagion

Sharing in case this can give someone hope who's struggling with pressure from TBM family members... Thanks for sharing. It is a very important reminder to NOT break our relationships while we are waking up. It is easy to thrash around in the angry phase and get offended because believers say such ...
by hiding in plain sight
Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:25 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Apocalypse vitamins and the return of FARMS
Replies: 15
Views: 681

Re: Apocalypse vitamins and the return of FARMS

Yeah, well, I guess the jokes on us then isn't it? :| Don't get me wrong, I love those quotes. But if JS or BY had to contend with the Internet I am very skeptical that they would have uttered them. No. They would not have. But I do miss the early methods of mormon missionary work. If you ever read...
by hiding in plain sight
Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church’s truth claims can be tested
Replies: 10
Views: 582

Re: Church’s truth claims can be tested

It actually teaches a false plan of salvation where there continues to be a literal hell, with a literal devil, for almost everyone who lives. Aw, c'mon HIPS, you know that God instructed his prophets and apostles to lie to people about a literal hell to scare them into being good (D&C 19). So now ...
by hiding in plain sight
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sunday Logistics
Replies: 27
Views: 1270

Re: Sunday Logistics

sacrament meeting every week for one hour. A ten minute break to change places. a 50 minute sunday school lesson one week. The other week a 50 minute RS/Priesthood meeting Every week has a 50 minute primary for the kids. It actually goes very fast and I love it given that I will continue to be atten...
by hiding in plain sight
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church’s truth claims can be tested
Replies: 10
Views: 582

Re: Church’s truth claims can be tested

The Book of Mormon is true and contains the fulness of the gospel. I love how people try to explain away fulness of the gospel somehow does NOT need to include the concepts of baptism for the dead, washings and annointings, temple endowments, celestial marriage. All of which are the pinnacle of morm...
by hiding in plain sight
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: BYU and Higher Education Rule Changes - Freedom to Discriminate?
Replies: 16
Views: 909

Re: BYU and Higher Education Rule Changes - Freedom to Discriminate?

Faculty and students at BYU have precious little protection from the religious zealots who run the place. Those protections are about to get a lot smaller. This. Even now there is no/limited religious freedom protections at BYU. If you choose to be mormon one day or even baptist, you are good to go...
by hiding in plain sight
Tue Feb 05, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dallin Oaks: “I suggest that research is not the answer"
Replies: 40
Views: 1608

Re: Dallin Oaks: “I suggest that research is not the answer"

“I suggest that research is not the answer,” he said. Oh boy, it's getting almost comical the way they are chasing their tails lately. Actually, research is the answer, but unfortunately for Brother Oaks and company it's an answer that leads to the actual ANSWER. Reverse psychology is actually an e...
by hiding in plain sight
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Gospel Topics Essay - BOM Geography
Replies: 45
Views: 1734

Re: New Gospel Topics Essay - BOM Geography

Its' tough to have a position when taking that position would show that you are completely wrong.

The poor leaders are in a no win situation. I am so glad I don't have to defend the indefensible any more.