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by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Another Sabbatical
Replies: 7
Views: 462

Another Sabbatical

First, a little about the first. I chose five goals. If I were to list them for you, they'd probably sound familiar, but I wrote down my top five goals and decided to focus on those five as much as possible until they are achieved. Let me rephrase that. Ignore everything else as much as possible unt...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 56
Views: 2800

Re: New Ministering Program

Geez, people, quit caring about what anyone else thinks. This is a prime opportunity to take back your power. When they ask you to be a “minister”, say “no I don’t want to minister or be ministered to”, and when they ask why, say “I have my reasons” and leave it at that. If you hurt someone’s feeli...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:50 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sunday afternoon NOM thread
Replies: 93
Views: 3292

Re: Sunday afternoon NOM thread

I think the Church just set itself back a few hundred years with this statement. I wonder if they'll redact it. From my perspective, whatever gains they can be praised for in calling leaders somewhat outside their stereotype have been erased by this phrase. And it wholly demonstrates why their orig...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 56
Views: 2800

Re: New Ministering Program

I testify to the truthfulness of what you just said. Even making up the numbers part. I've done that, myself.
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 56
Views: 2800

Re: New Ministering Program

I have a feeling we won't be able to say no to this. ... As far as my needs, I need to be left alone. Have any of you said that? Does that actually work? That is what I would prefer. Oh, I can say no to it. During my last couple of years of attendance, I ignored it, evaded it, or just said no, depe...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Sunday afternoon NOM thread
Replies: 93
Views: 3292

Re: Sunday afternoon NOM thread

I was in the other room at our family Easter party while a few were watching conference and I heard the words "non-consensual immorality" and I could not believe I heard this bit of victim blaming. Now it and diabetic neuropathy have me up at night. Maybe it was a super poor euphemism is a great ta...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 56
Views: 2800

Re: New Ministering Program

So many great comments! I have a feeling we won't be able to say no to this. One thing that had me hopeful about this was one of the reasons stated for not letting children of parents in gay marriages join the church was there was an HT/VT record generated for that individual and home visits in thos...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Money More Precious than Members
Replies: 5
Views: 382

Re: Money More Precious than Members

Your friend makes a good point. I'll take an apologetic view for the church. I heard of a case where a clerk counted up, recorded and deposited the tithing. He deposited the tithing utilizing an ATM machine. There was a malfunction in the machine and the tithing envelope fell down in the spot betwee...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: My Adventures
Replies: 4
Views: 286

Re: My Adventures

Slavareeno, It is nice to be able to be more open with my family. It was very nerve wracking until I heard from all of them. However, once that passed, it hit me that I am now free to resign, if that is what I wish. However, as we are fond of saying here, at Nom, baby steps. Thank you, Corsair, and ...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 6:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 56
Views: 2800

Re: New Ministering Program

Yeah, I'm going to double post. While I was writing the original post, I was asking myself where the opportunities lie within this problem. One thing that is terrific about NOM is it is a place where I can get initial anxieties out of my head and then I have room for solutions. Once those thoughts w...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 56
Views: 2800

New Ministering Program

I didn't listen to conference. I saw that there was an announcement about HT/VT being discontinued and I was thrilled! However, when I read the official publication from the Church about what this new program will entail, I'm somewhat less than thrilled. Sister Bingham said “rather than leaders just...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: We can't criticize everything
Replies: 33
Views: 1674

Re: We can't criticize everything

I agree. I had been blissfullly unaware of the Joseph Bishop scandal until Thursday night when the Church announced its policy change. It also reiterated the Church's official stance on abuse. I was flustered by this, because I wanted to complain. I wanted to criticize. The Church is listening and r...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:16 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: My Adventures
Replies: 4
Views: 286

My Adventures

It's been awhile since I've been here. I thought I'd check in and let you know I'm okay. I thought I'd bring you up to speed, a little bit, on my adventures. I have had some long standing goals that I have been working on and sitting around commenting on the Church wasn't helping me achieve them, so...
by Give It Time
Mon Apr 02, 2018 4:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Dad Died This Morning
Replies: 31
Views: 1122

Re: Dad Died This Morning

I am so sorry for your loss, Jax.
by Give It Time
Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:23 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Checking Out, For Awhile
Replies: 4
Views: 377

Checking Out, For Awhile

Happy Thanksgiving, NOMs!

I'm going to be checking out of NOM for a few months and wanted to let you know I appreciate all of you and NOM.

I also wanted to beat the Black Friday rush and wish you all a Happy Holidays.
by Give It Time
Thu Nov 23, 2017 6:18 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A Good Thing
Replies: 6
Views: 584

Re: A Good Thing

Emower wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:55 pm
MoPag wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:54 am
That is sweet that they reached out to you.

I wish we could have a big NOM thanksgiving! :D
That would really be fun.

It would be really fun and my neighbor invited me to Thanksgiving.
by Give It Time
Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: A Good Thing
Replies: 6
Views: 584

A Good Thing

My former VT asked me yesterday and my RSP just texted me. They wanted to make sure my family and I had a place to go for Thanksgiving. Even when I was TBM, we were explicitly told to make sure the people on our routes had a place to go for Thanksgiving. The fact that our religion does this is not u...
by Give It Time
Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Unimportance Of Women's Work
Replies: 8
Views: 615

Re: The Unimportance Of Women's Work

2bizE wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:29 pm
find the work women do the in the church so much more valuable and important than any other group. The bishop usually provides meaningful service, but what women do in general surpasses what the men can do.
Thank you.
by Give It Time
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Celestial Procreation?
Replies: 34
Views: 1564

Re: Celestial Procreation?

Yeah, it's my understanding our doctrine really hasn't changed from the early days. What was explicitly in the temple has merely gone into hiding. I'm not sure where we are on Adam/God. I know it's been disavowed, but the first time I read it, it had the doctrine of Heavenly Father marrying Mary and...
by Give It Time
Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Unimportance Of Women's Work
Replies: 8
Views: 615

Re: The Unimportance Of Women's Work

Really good points, Jeffret. As I was writing my previous posts and I've been considering this lunch invitation. Yes, the lunch is only one hour, if everyone arrives on time--which they won't. The lunch will be only one hour, if we set a timer and shut down the conversation after forty-five minutes....