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by Fifi de la Vergne
Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What if....
Replies: 19
Views: 537

Re: What if....

Here's my perspective. I didn't grow up in the church; I grew up in a terribly dysfunctional family and made a lot of self-destructive choices before joining the church at 21. For many years the church was a positive influence in my life -- going on a mission, going to BYU, and doing my best to foll...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I choose love, full stop.
Replies: 70
Views: 1916

Re: I choose love, full stop.

Deep down this has very little to do with the LGBTQ issue. It has to do with people demanding that a group, any group change their centuries old beliefs and practices because they don't like them. The majority of LDS people like what their leaders teach. I would say that a majority don't want the L...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2129

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Just sayin'..... https://www.christian.org.uk/news/girls-skip-school-rather-than-use-gender-neutral-toilets/ One mother said: “The cubicles were open at the bottom and top so older pupils can easily climb up the toilets and peer over.” Again, open cubicles are inadequate in many situations, and doo...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2129

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Not buying it and Alas we may just have to agree to disagree here. I always respect your opinions. But in this case I can't see myself repeating your arguments to explain to my eleven year old grand daughter why she is forced to share the public restroom with a 6' 2", 225 lb, male looking, hairy pe...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:56 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Where are you right now?
Replies: 1
Views: 109

Re: Where are you right now?

I'm in the Omaha area. There used to be someone on the old board near here, but I haven't seen him on the new board. If anyone else is here, there's a new local Facebook group that is fairly active and more members would be welcome. We have a fairly large (for a mid-sized Midwestern city) population...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mass disclosure update
Replies: 10
Views: 517

Re: Mass disclosure update

Slavereeno, I have no wisdom to offer, just solidarity and support. In March I waited outside the temple while my son was married. The only difference was that it was pretty well known prior to the day that I was no longer attending the temple. Still it was hard and yes, it made me feel conspicuous....
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Writer excommunicated during ‘September Six’ purge loses her bid to rejoin the LDS Church
Replies: 22
Views: 793

Re: Writer excommunicated during ‘September Six’ purge loses her bid to rejoin the LDS Church

See the article below: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/09/05/writer-excommunicated/ On Aug. 27, McLean delivered the First Presidency denial. The stake president, who oversees a number of congregations, remained optimistic, she said, zeroing in on the words, “at this time.” But then [Anderson]...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood keys lesson
Replies: 18
Views: 587

Re: Priesthood keys lesson

Maybe you could talk about service. I no longer have any belief in the authority of the Mormon priesthood, but the good leaders my sons had in YM who took them out on service projects and made it fun and built camaraderie gave them a real gift. In particular, I remember a winter when we had one mass...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Shunning the shunners
Replies: 27
Views: 1710

Re: Shunning the shunners

The LDS church (and others) are SO misguided on the forgiveness principle. They don't understand it and have actually corrupted it. I've written this before but maybe you all will indulge me one more time? 1. Big difference between "forgiveness" and "reconciliation". Anciently in tribal situations ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Newest update on my brother
Replies: 41
Views: 1858

Re: Newest update on my brother

I am so sorry for your loss.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New WOW Video
Replies: 32
Views: 1189

Re: New WOW Video

A search yielded results saying that Rose had a heavy hand in editing the books, but that Laura was the one who wrote them (that would be the initial drafts). Apparently, her writing wasn't good enough for a publisher to want to sell the books, so Rose helped her. I think there's a difference betwe...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 345
Views: 30428

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Least night I had a bourbon chocolate maltshake. Delicious!
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Will Nelson apologize to the NAACP?
Replies: 18
Views: 735

Re: Will Nelson apologize to the NAACP?

I keep glancing at the title of this thread and think it's a thread about Willie Nelson for an instant before I realize it's really about some other dude with the last name of Nelson, and I am disappoint. What does Willie Nelson have to do with MORmONism? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1424

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

And, for the record, I absolutely think Wendy was jumping at the chance for that kind of status. I don't know her inner thoughts, but I do not think for a second she was concerned that it was wrong to marry Nelson because that was her ticket to the CK was a polygamous prophet... that's the Mormon d...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1424

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

So it’s wrong to call her a gold digger when all she was doing was responding to God’s foreordained plan for her which was to be the SECOND wife of the Prophet, the gatekeeper to late night bedroom revelation, and a social media influencer! You made me laugh as usual, RR -- but I also think you nai...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1424

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

Wendy Watson Nelson has made herself a public figure. She was featured in a publicly released video wherein she makes claims about receiving revelation that influence other people in the Church. I don’t think there’s anything at all wrong with looking at the available evidence and critically evalua...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1424

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

I'm not a Wendy fan at all. But I am amazed at folks' ability to read her character, desires and intentions, and interpret her life history in such detail. It rivals the ability of my ward members to read and make judgements on my character and life history based on an even closer degree of familiar...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon May 06, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage
Replies: 68
Views: 2264

Re: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage

. . . People will have to truly make it a secular event and then take it to the temple. And you know what? That would be the ideal, both from the church's perspective and from the couple's. There are so many sad stories of bishops who performed the civil ceremony but took the occasion to shame the ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon May 06, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage
Replies: 68
Views: 2264

Re: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage

It's been just over a month since I stood outside and greeted my son and his new bride as they exited the temple, from a wedding that I was excluded from. I am, of course, SO GLAD that this will no longer have to be the experience of non-member or inactive family members going forward. But I don't h...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Newest update on my brother
Replies: 41
Views: 1858

Re: Update. Need to vent, has nothing to do with Mormonism

So wonderful to hear this!