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by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint
Replies: 166
Views: 6688

Re: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint

Also wonder how their annual accounting report in conference will change. I was fantasizing about taking a group of NOMs and exmos to the Conference Center to loudly boo and heckle when the auditor gives his report next April and then . . . I realized that if they're smart (not a given) they will o...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Talking around the issues
Replies: 37
Views: 1443

Re: Talking around the issues

I attended SM yesterday with my family (one of a couple of times a year when I still go). It was interesting that when one of the bishopric made his closing comments after the Christmas program, he spent some time addressing his gratitude for being able to come to a place where he felt supported and...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM: Thank you for the low-level bitterness
Replies: 18
Views: 599

Re: NOM: Thank you for the low-level bitterness

The title is not ironic. Seriously, thank you. A few months ago, I tried the "avoiding all things Mormon" experiment. It seemed to make me happier at first, but ultimately seems to have failed. I don't know that the experiment was solely responsible for my declining mental health, but I think it wa...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Virtue Signalling?
Replies: 12
Views: 410

Re: Virtue Signalling?

Friend: Let's go see this movie; it's getting rave reviews!
Past me: Umm, isn't that R-rated? :oops:
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:37 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Bras
Replies: 7
Views: 344

Re: Bras

Ladies, how many bras does the average woman have/need? You know, no matter how often women complain on NOM about “some man asking us about our underwear” it just never seems to get through to the men :lol: Seriously. . . .Why do you want to know something about women’s underwear? Yeah . . . my fir...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Renews Opposition to ERA
Replies: 62
Views: 2142

Re: Church Renews Opposition to ERA

. . . I would really like to see our society do the right thing by way of integrity, good principle and rational thinking rather than having to codify good behavior. As I recall the intent of the Founders was to restrict the government in it's ability to interfere in our lives. The more we codify, ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Renews Opposition to ERA
Replies: 62
Views: 2142

Re: Church Renews Opposition to ERA

duplicate post

Sorry!
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Renews Opposition to ERA
Replies: 62
Views: 2142

Re: Church Renews Opposition to ERA

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by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Renews Opposition to ERA
Replies: 62
Views: 2142

Re: Church Renews Opposition to ERA

I was aware through the time period of what was happening but didn't really study all of the legal ramifications. I wasn't sure why the church was so opposed to the amendment. Still on the other hand, what struck me as critical was that the entire thing seemed redundant. I think everything that wom...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:15 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 371
Views: 35216

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Dravin wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:26 am
For those curious about the teapot -

With the cup it came with: https://i.imgur.com/zfWuk5h.jpg
With the cup I actually use: https://i.imgur.com/TSfNKat.jpg
Your links aren't working for me. :(
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:28 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: book recommendation for Unfollow: A Memoir of Loving and Leaving the Westboro Baptist Church
Replies: 5
Views: 308

Re: book recommendation for Unfollow: A Memoir of Loving and Leaving the Westboro Baptist Church

Sam Harris interviewed her in October about the book. https://samharris.org/podcasts/171-escaping-christian-cult/ I listened to this -- thank you for the link. Although a lot of their discussion was covered in the book, Sam asks her specifically how to engage someone mired in extremist thinking wit...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 371
Views: 35216

Re: What are you drinking right now?

I'm going to be sipping tea all day long while I try out my new mini teapot. It's only 165 ml if you fill it to the brim (more accurate capacity is more like 150 ml). My wife might joke about a grown man having his own tea party with a mini-teapot but you know what? I'm secure in my masculinity tha...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: It's been a while. What next
Replies: 33
Views: 1232

Re: It's been a while. What next

I may be the minority on this, but I still see no reason extended family needs to be told. What business is it of theirs, really, what underwear I wear? Or even what god I worship or don't? Or what I do on Sunday mornings? (It's a lot more fun than what we used to do.) . . . Defining boundaries is ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:29 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: book recommendation for Unfollow: A Memoir of Loving and Leaving the Westboro Baptist Church
Replies: 5
Views: 308

Re: book recommendation for Unfollow: A Memoir of Loving and Leaving the Westboro Baptist Church

Did she leave Christianity as well or just the church? I don't think she comes right out and says either way. She does talk about visiting services for other denominations after she's left Westboro, and how she saw all the flaws in their arguments for their belief. She does quote a lot of scripture...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:28 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: book recommendation for Unfollow: A Memoir of Loving and Leaving the Westboro Baptist Church
Replies: 5
Views: 308

book recommendation for Unfollow: A Memoir of Loving and Leaving the Westboro Baptist Church

I read this over the holiday weekend . . . WOW. The author is the granddaughter of the church's founder. She was fully devout and for many years she was the Church's social media manager. The book describes her childhood (a lot of it is very hard to read because of the extreme, hateful positions of ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A note from Kishkumen. (His daughter is sick)
Replies: 16
Views: 951

Re: A note from Kishkumen. (His daughter is sick)

I'm so, so sorry you and your family are going through this. Words are inadequate I know, but I hope you have people around you IRL who can bear you up and give you the kind of support that actually comforts and helps.

Hugs.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormon guy's adoption scheme...again
Replies: 7
Views: 459

Re: Mormon guy's adoption scheme...again

Here are some excellent articles from a crack investigative unit in Hawaii on the scope of this problem. Peterson is mentioned numerous times. Baby selling is apparently a very lucrative business. https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/11/why-a-crackdown-on-this-growing-adoption-pipeline-just-hasnt-worked-...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sat Oct 26, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What if....
Replies: 19
Views: 761

Re: What if....

Here's my perspective. I didn't grow up in the church; I grew up in a terribly dysfunctional family and made a lot of self-destructive choices before joining the church at 21. For many years the church was a positive influence in my life -- going on a mission, going to BYU, and doing my best to foll...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I choose love, full stop.
Replies: 70
Views: 2557

Re: I choose love, full stop.

Deep down this has very little to do with the LGBTQ issue. It has to do with people demanding that a group, any group change their centuries old beliefs and practices because they don't like them. The majority of LDS people like what their leaders teach. I would say that a majority don't want the L...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2734

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Just sayin'..... https://www.christian.org.uk/news/girls-skip-school-rather-than-use-gender-neutral-toilets/ One mother said: “The cubicles were open at the bottom and top so older pupils can easily climb up the toilets and peer over.” Again, open cubicles are inadequate in many situations, and doo...