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by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mass disclosure update
Replies: 10
Views: 427

Re: Mass disclosure update

Slavereeno, I have no wisdom to offer, just solidarity and support. In March I waited outside the temple while my son was married. The only difference was that it was pretty well known prior to the day that I was no longer attending the temple. Still it was hard and yes, it made me feel conspicuous....
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Writer excommunicated during ‘September Six’ purge loses her bid to rejoin the LDS Church
Replies: 22
Views: 672

Re: Writer excommunicated during ‘September Six’ purge loses her bid to rejoin the LDS Church

See the article below: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/09/05/writer-excommunicated/ On Aug. 27, McLean delivered the First Presidency denial. The stake president, who oversees a number of congregations, remained optimistic, she said, zeroing in on the words, “at this time.” But then [Anderson]...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood keys lesson
Replies: 18
Views: 495

Re: Priesthood keys lesson

Maybe you could talk about service. I no longer have any belief in the authority of the Mormon priesthood, but the good leaders my sons had in YM who took them out on service projects and made it fun and built camaraderie gave them a real gift. In particular, I remember a winter when we had one mass...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:33 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Shunning the shunners
Replies: 22
Views: 1147

Re: Shunning the shunners

The LDS church (and others) are SO misguided on the forgiveness principle. They don't understand it and have actually corrupted it. I've written this before but maybe you all will indulge me one more time? 1. Big difference between "forgiveness" and "reconciliation". Anciently in tribal situations ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Jul 31, 2019 12:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Newest update on my brother
Replies: 41
Views: 1676

Re: Newest update on my brother

I am so sorry for your loss.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New WOW Video
Replies: 32
Views: 1100

Re: New WOW Video

A search yielded results saying that Rose had a heavy hand in editing the books, but that Laura was the one who wrote them (that would be the initial drafts). Apparently, her writing wasn't good enough for a publisher to want to sell the books, so Rose helped her. I think there's a difference betwe...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 305
Views: 27588

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Least night I had a bourbon chocolate maltshake. Delicious!
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Will Nelson apologize to the NAACP?
Replies: 18
Views: 661

Re: Will Nelson apologize to the NAACP?

I keep glancing at the title of this thread and think it's a thread about Willie Nelson for an instant before I realize it's really about some other dude with the last name of Nelson, and I am disappoint. What does Willie Nelson have to do with MORmONism? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/comm...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1341

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

And, for the record, I absolutely think Wendy was jumping at the chance for that kind of status. I don't know her inner thoughts, but I do not think for a second she was concerned that it was wrong to marry Nelson because that was her ticket to the CK was a polygamous prophet... that's the Mormon d...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1341

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

So it’s wrong to call her a gold digger when all she was doing was responding to God’s foreordained plan for her which was to be the SECOND wife of the Prophet, the gatekeeper to late night bedroom revelation, and a social media influencer! You made me laugh as usual, RR -- but I also think you nai...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1341

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

Wendy Watson Nelson has made herself a public figure. She was featured in a publicly released video wherein she makes claims about receiving revelation that influence other people in the Church. I don’t think there’s anything at all wrong with looking at the available evidence and critically evalua...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies
Replies: 36
Views: 1341

Re: New Wendy Nelson video is giving me a serious case of the heebie jeebies

I'm not a Wendy fan at all. But I am amazed at folks' ability to read her character, desires and intentions, and interpret her life history in such detail. It rivals the ability of my ward members to read and make judgements on my character and life history based on an even closer degree of familiar...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon May 06, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage
Replies: 68
Views: 2094

Re: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage

. . . People will have to truly make it a secular event and then take it to the temple. And you know what? That would be the ideal, both from the church's perspective and from the couple's. There are so many sad stories of bishops who performed the civil ceremony but took the occasion to shame the ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon May 06, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage
Replies: 68
Views: 2094

Re: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage

It's been just over a month since I stood outside and greeted my son and his new bride as they exited the temple, from a wedding that I was excluded from. I am, of course, SO GLAD that this will no longer have to be the experience of non-member or inactive family members going forward. But I don't h...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Newest update on my brother
Replies: 41
Views: 1676

Re: Update. Need to vent, has nothing to do with Mormonism

So wonderful to hear this!
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Saturday Morning!!!!
Replies: 90
Views: 2818

Re: General NOMfrence Saturday Morning!!!!

StarbucksMom wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:41 am
I don’t know how to scroll back to the beginning for quotes, so what’s a FSOY??? (as scripture now?)
For the Strength of Youth
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
Replies: 51
Views: 1784

Re: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'

There's a lot of astute speculation about what prompted this . . . I'd REALLY like to know the actual reasoning and discussions that led to yesterday's announcement. I wonder if we ever will.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Honor Code Stories
Replies: 14
Views: 726

Re: Honor Code Stories

I've been reading these. They're awful. The ones I find the most chilling are the ones where a student is asked to prove their complete remorse for their sins by providing the names of other students who have transgressed the Honor Code. It smacks of McCarthyism to me and I can't for the life of me ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Mr. and Mrs. Græy's Stuff
Replies: 47
Views: 2697

Re: Mr. and Mrs. Græy's Stuff

Hugs. Sometimes it all just gets to be too much to carry inside. I'm glad we can be here for you to vent to.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: on being outside
Replies: 17
Views: 899

Re: on being outside

I'm returning and reporting. TL;DR -- it was a lovely day. I didn't go to the temple to wait outside. I spent the time with some other family members who also couldn't be in the temple and we reminisced about other weddings we've been to, and basically agreed that we liked non-mormon weddings better...