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by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon May 06, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage
Replies: 68
Views: 1512

Re: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage

. . . People will have to truly make it a secular event and then take it to the temple. And you know what? That would be the ideal, both from the church's perspective and from the couple's. There are so many sad stories of bishops who performed the civil ceremony but took the occasion to shame the ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon May 06, 2019 9:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage
Replies: 68
Views: 1512

Re: Couples Married Civilly Now Authorized for Immediate Temple Marriage

It's been just over a month since I stood outside and greeted my son and his new bride as they exited the temple, from a wedding that I was excluded from. I am, of course, SO GLAD that this will no longer have to be the experience of non-member or inactive family members going forward. But I don't h...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Saturday Morning!!!!
Replies: 90
Views: 2399

Re: General NOMfrence Saturday Morning!!!!

StarbucksMom wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:41 am
I don’t know how to scroll back to the beginning for quotes, so what’s a FSOY??? (as scripture now?)
For the Strength of Youth
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:16 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
Replies: 51
Views: 1470

Re: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'

There's a lot of astute speculation about what prompted this . . . I'd REALLY like to know the actual reasoning and discussions that led to yesterday's announcement. I wonder if we ever will.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Honor Code Stories
Replies: 14
Views: 597

Re: Honor Code Stories

I've been reading these. They're awful. The ones I find the most chilling are the ones where a student is asked to prove their complete remorse for their sins by providing the names of other students who have transgressed the Honor Code. It smacks of McCarthyism to me and I can't for the life of me ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:52 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Mr. and Mrs. Græy's Stuff
Replies: 39
Views: 1473

Re: Mr. and Mrs. Græy's Stuff

Hugs. Sometimes it all just gets to be too much to carry inside. I'm glad we can be here for you to vent to.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: on being outside
Replies: 17
Views: 744

Re: on being outside

I'm returning and reporting. TL;DR -- it was a lovely day. I didn't go to the temple to wait outside. I spent the time with some other family members who also couldn't be in the temple and we reminisced about other weddings we've been to, and basically agreed that we liked non-mormon weddings better...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: on being outside
Replies: 17
Views: 744

on being outside

My eldest son is getting married in the temple in a couple of weeks, and although I resigned myself to that probability when he left on his mission, I've found myself angrier and more triggered by church stuff than I have been for a long time. I have this foreboding that one of the changes they will...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:13 am
Forum: Support
Topic: mocha latte for Neal
Replies: 22
Views: 634

Re: mocha latte for Neal

Thank you all. It has been a difficult time, and coming here to read your comments has brought me a surprising amount of comfort. Namaste.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: mocha latte for Neal
Replies: 22
Views: 634

mocha latte for Neal

If any of you remember this and are so inclined . . . it always means so much to me when I know that you're remembering with me, even though you didn't know him IRL. It feels sort of like you all went through it with me and today's the anniversary.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I need some support. TW/CW child rape
Replies: 16
Views: 676

Re: I need some support. TW/CW child rape

Ugh -- I have no advice, just feeling anguished and enraged on your behalf. Unbelievable -- and incomprehensible. I'm so sorry.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What Would It Take to Keep You?
Replies: 18
Views: 550

Re: What Would It Take to Keep You?

The bottom line is I don't really want any religion anymore. I'm just done with that in my life. You and me both. There is nothing they can change at this point that would convince me to resume being an active member of their church. Once it sparked joy and I drew from my participation a sense of j...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Missionaries can call home weekly now
Replies: 27
Views: 1190

Re: Missionaries can call home weekly now

My eldest son went out on his mission about a year after his younger brother died. It was a hard, dark time for him and for us -- to me, missing two sons and having lost any belief that there was any purpose or meaning in the absence of either, it was beyond hideous. I'm really, really, really glad ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you reading right now?
Replies: 15
Views: 451

Re: What are you reading right now?

I just finished rereading Chaim Potok’s The Chosen and My Name is Asher Lev . Before that I read Jonathan Haidt’s Coddling of the American Mind and Johann Hari’s Lost Connections . I have a stack of books and I’m not sure where to go next. A biography of Bing Crosby during the war years, I’m planni...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you reading right now?
Replies: 15
Views: 451

Re: What are you reading right now?

I tried to engage her with the Harry Potter series- but she likes the strong female lead. We recently read A wrinkle in Time and then saw the movie. Any suggestions for other series? When I am not reading children's books, I prefer non-fiction, one of my favorites is Team of Rivals about Lincoln. W...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
Replies: 97
Views: 4077

Re: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?

Red Ryder wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:51 pm
Is the women’s veil even necessary to wear now?

What’s the point of wearing it if it’s not going to be used to veil the face?
Are they still going to cover her face with it before they close her coffin?
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:11 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: In which tattoos are discussed
Replies: 15
Views: 594

Re: In which tattoos are discussed

MoPag wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:50 am
I really want to get a memorial tattoo for angel DS too.
(((hugs)))
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:17 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: In which tattoos are discussed
Replies: 15
Views: 594

Re: In which tattoos are discussed

However, personally speaking I think tattoos are equivalent to wall paper. Over time they become dated reflecting time and current fads. Examples of this are "barbed wire around the bicep", low back "tramp stamp", "tribal designs", "Chinese symbols", cartoon characters, etc. This is how I think of ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Russell's Long Journey out of Mormonism
Replies: 24
Views: 1535

Re: Russell's Long Journey out of Mormonism

Well done video collage of both Gordon and Russ' talks: https://youtu.be/2lKQrYUE3yc The editing on this is brilliant and provides better commentary than anything else I've seen. On a side note: I really miss Hinckley and his wry self-deprecatory humor. Nelson suffers badly from the side-by-side co...