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by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: on being outside
Replies: 12
Views: 369

on being outside

My eldest son is getting married in the temple in a couple of weeks, and although I resigned myself to that probability when he left on his mission, I've found myself angrier and more triggered by church stuff than I have been for a long time. I have this foreboding that one of the changes they will...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Mar 14, 2019 6:13 am
Forum: Support
Topic: mocha latte for Neal
Replies: 22
Views: 466

Re: mocha latte for Neal

Thank you all. It has been a difficult time, and coming here to read your comments has brought me a surprising amount of comfort. Namaste.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: mocha latte for Neal
Replies: 22
Views: 466

mocha latte for Neal

If any of you remember this and are so inclined . . . it always means so much to me when I know that you're remembering with me, even though you didn't know him IRL. It feels sort of like you all went through it with me and today's the anniversary.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Mar 08, 2019 7:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I need some support. TW/CW child rape
Replies: 16
Views: 543

Re: I need some support. TW/CW child rape

Ugh -- I have no advice, just feeling anguished and enraged on your behalf. Unbelievable -- and incomprehensible. I'm so sorry.
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What Would It Take to Keep You?
Replies: 18
Views: 461

Re: What Would It Take to Keep You?

The bottom line is I don't really want any religion anymore. I'm just done with that in my life. You and me both. There is nothing they can change at this point that would convince me to resume being an active member of their church. Once it sparked joy and I drew from my participation a sense of j...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Missionaries can call home weekly now
Replies: 27
Views: 1068

Re: Missionaries can call home weekly now

My eldest son went out on his mission about a year after his younger brother died. It was a hard, dark time for him and for us -- to me, missing two sons and having lost any belief that there was any purpose or meaning in the absence of either, it was beyond hideous. I'm really, really, really glad ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you reading right now?
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: What are you reading right now?

I just finished rereading Chaim Potok’s The Chosen and My Name is Asher Lev . Before that I read Jonathan Haidt’s Coddling of the American Mind and Johann Hari’s Lost Connections . I have a stack of books and I’m not sure where to go next. A biography of Bing Crosby during the war years, I’m planni...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Feb 15, 2019 9:18 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you reading right now?
Replies: 15
Views: 334

Re: What are you reading right now?

I tried to engage her with the Harry Potter series- but she likes the strong female lead. We recently read A wrinkle in Time and then saw the movie. Any suggestions for other series? When I am not reading children's books, I prefer non-fiction, one of my favorites is Team of Rivals about Lincoln. W...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
Replies: 97
Views: 3793

Re: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?

Red Ryder wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:51 pm
Is the women’s veil even necessary to wear now?

What’s the point of wearing it if it’s not going to be used to veil the face?
Are they still going to cover her face with it before they close her coffin?
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:11 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: In which tattoos are discussed
Replies: 15
Views: 526

Re: In which tattoos are discussed

MoPag wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:50 am
I really want to get a memorial tattoo for angel DS too.
(((hugs)))
by Fifi de la Vergne
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:17 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: In which tattoos are discussed
Replies: 15
Views: 526

Re: In which tattoos are discussed

However, personally speaking I think tattoos are equivalent to wall paper. Over time they become dated reflecting time and current fads. Examples of this are "barbed wire around the bicep", low back "tramp stamp", "tribal designs", "Chinese symbols", cartoon characters, etc. This is how I think of ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Russell's Long Journey out of Mormonism
Replies: 21
Views: 1198

Re: Russell's Long Journey out of Mormonism

Well done video collage of both Gordon and Russ' talks: https://youtu.be/2lKQrYUE3yc The editing on this is brilliant and provides better commentary than anything else I've seen. On a side note: I really miss Hinckley and his wry self-deprecatory humor. Nelson suffers badly from the side-by-side co...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Update. Why I am angry with victims (myself)
Replies: 41
Views: 1295

Re: Update. Why I am angry with victims (myself)

But I have never heard a conversation on how women can handle sexual comments or harassment in ways that empower women and take the power away from the harasser. Sure, it might be more complicated than a stranger flashing. But I would still like a conversation about how women can respond in various...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Mon Sep 17, 2018 6:48 am
Forum: Support
Topic: From Apostate to the HC
Replies: 41
Views: 1832

Re: From Apostate to the HC

Red Ryder wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:45 am
PS. Can we just keep this going as the "Mormorrisey HC Experience" mega thread?
Yes please!
by Fifi de la Vergne
Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What Does It Mean to be Worthy
Replies: 16
Views: 760

Re: What Does It Mean to be Worthy

Freefallin, your post really made my heart ache. I have struggled with a feeling of brokenness or unworthiness for as long as I can remember. I was drawn to the church and converted as a young adult because the initial message was of unconditional love and worth -- just because I was a child of God....
by Fifi de la Vergne
Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: ...the great Robert Kirby — gave me weed
Replies: 26
Views: 1155

Re: ...the great Robert Kirby — gave me weed

Tribune columnist Robert Kirby suspended after investigation into inappropriate behavior: https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/09/15/ ... ist-robert
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Aug 23, 2018 1:57 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How and when did the word "even" start a declaration for Church Leaders?
Replies: 6
Views: 517

Re: How and when did the word "even" start a declaration for Church Leaders?

For any other language geeks out there, this is a short discussion of why/how "even" is used in the KJV of the Bible: https://www.waywordradio.org/discussion/topics/the-word-even-in-the-king-james-bible/ I agree that it gets used in Conference talks and leadership utterances to artificially add weig...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: RIP Stephen E. Robinson
Replies: 6
Views: 467

Re: RIP Stephen E. Robinson

Robinson's Parable of the Bicycle and his book Believing Christ was an important part of giving me hope and keeping me going in the church long after the glow of my conversion had worn off. When my wonderful, loving and conscientious TBM son gets down on himself, I often quote Robinson to him, or re...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: another modesty post -- apologies in advance
Replies: 13
Views: 952

Re: another modesty post -- apologies in advance

There is a balancing act in dressing for one’s self and understanding that what one wears does send a message – I think in our excitement to dislike so much about the church the truth of that is often lost. I do not know how one helps a youth understand that. Sometimes I notice there are plenty of ...
by Fifi de la Vergne
Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: another modesty post -- apologies in advance
Replies: 13
Views: 952

Re: another modesty post -- apologies in advance

One of the weird dynamics (or I don't know, maybe not so unusual) is that DH gets really wound up about things like this, and then I feel like the sky is caving in, or the apocalypse is imminent or something. (I learned recently that this is called low distress tolerance.) Anyway, it's so helpful to...