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Is this a walk back or an oversight? Meaning maybe that language was already in the handbook and no one has noticed or gotten around to correcting it. Apparently they addressed the change of name for the Tabernacle Choir, so it would be odd to not make sure this part was stated correctly. It's on t...

For what it's worth, they style guide at the church's website still says that "Mormons" is less desirable: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/style-guide When referring to Church members, the terms "members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," "Latter-day Saints,” "members of ...

I am seeing this posted on other forums (and I guess Kate Kelly posted it on Facebook), but there has been what is being termed a "softening" of Pres. Nelson's instructions and a change in "policy". Here's what it states now: 21.1.34 Referring to the Church and Its Members As the Church grows across...

“I just wanted to add a few comments on gender and gender identification,” Hathaway said. “While we recognize what LGBT means, we do not use those labels when we talk about people. We don’t say, for example, that person is gay. We say that person struggles with same gender attraction.” They also in...

Let’s say a guy’s entire self-esteem is based on his lgbtq status and then, as many do, he decides to go heterosexual. What exactly are you referring to here when you state "he decides to go heterosexual"? If you mean he decides to try marrying the opposite sex as was recommended at one time by chu...

The father of Elizabeth Smart has come out as gay. A very good article in the Deseret news explains. Interesting, it speaks of him going through a change of beliefs (in the church it seems) that led to him being able to come out. Discuss. https://www.deseret.com/2019/8/15/20807894/ed-smart-father-o...

Filing a lawsuit against the Church in Salt Lake City???! Good thing it is not 1859 or Porter Rockwell would see to it they were not around the next day. In 2019, it simply equates to an exercise in futility. Ha! True. I do wonder why she didn't file the lawsuit in California (she's a licensed atto...

One of Tom's problems is that he didn't just stick to trying to refute the claims of MORmONism, he took it back to biblical claims, and attacked all of Christianity. From the extremely tiny snippets I've seen of Kay's case, she is sticking to just the claims of MORmONism (as in the incorrect narrat...

https://www.courthousenews.com/scathing-lawsuit-seeks-punitive-damages-from-mormon-church/ "Scathing Lawsuit Seeks Punitive Damages From Mormon Church" SALT LAKE CITY (CN) — A federal lawsuit sure to get attention in Utah claims that the “Mormon Corporate Empire” has driven worshipers to existential...

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I can't believe RMN didn't claim revelation here. This would have been a fairly safe one, whereas the other policy/doctrines/programs he's been making the revelation claim on just make him look stupid! I think he may have learned his lesson by calling the SSM policy a revelation and making such a b...

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I wonder if the wedding dresses will become less garment approved as well. Wedding first, endowments and sealing later that week. The uber TBMs wouldn't do that, but the less uber ones may. You know, you're probably right. I'll bet many won't even wear their wedding gown for the sealing part but wi...

I will grant that this is good news overall. It also reduces the need for me to maintain a temple recommend for my one child most likely to get married in the temple. I'm sure that the full temple marriage will continue to be the gold standard for Mormonism. But this will avoid a lot of hurt feelin...

https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/couples-married-civilly-authorized-for-immediate-temple-marriage?fbclid=IwAR3b7LUEtFGNRLnBURSq65rC7pjQfV325Lr4aJaeWL_tl_KrYTOmzRFNYrs Yay!!! The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced Monday that a civil marriage between a...

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That makes sense. The church originally responded to the bill with reluctance. Then they seemed to flip and embrace in light of the impending, but not yet announced policy flip-flop. Kind of like the way they tried to take credit for the marijuana proposition as a sign of their concern for sufferin...

Purely a coincidence. Everyone knows that God can change his mind for no reason. Wendy confirmed when she left the room, she paused for a moment with her ear to the door. She vaguely heard Russ say out loud "are you sure? We just changed the policy not even 5 years ago!! Ok, ok, I'll write this dow...

The more I see these changes the more convinced I am that they are based on legal and corporate pragmatism and not on any Christian compassion. Yup, I agree. I was hopeful that the leaders realized how unChristlike this policy was and had a softening of their hearts. I do believe most of their deci...