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by Not Buying It
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How would you like to be forever alone Elder Anderson?
Replies: 1
Views: 124

How would you like to be forever alone Elder Anderson?

Talks like Elder Neil L. Andersen’s (he who once said “Give Joseph a break!”) afternoon talk praising a gay friend who has kept himself celibate and alone thanks to a misguided faith in his religion really set me off. How would he like to be sentenced to a life of celibacy, never being able to have ...
by Not Buying It
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
Replies: 51
Views: 1381

Re: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'

I kind of think we are missing something in all of this - here is clear and irrefutable evidence that the Brethren think they can say or do anything and the members will accept it. I know it's kind of cliche to reference "We are at war with Eastasia. We've always been at war with Eastasia", but it's...
by Not Buying It
Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:07 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: THEY MUST APOLOGIZE!
Replies: 39
Views: 1077

Re: THEY MUST APOLOGIZE!

I am an adult I knew their rules and chose not to follow them. An apology? Seriously? Yes, an apology. Absolutely. This is not about people like you or me needing an apology, Blashyrkh. It's lying to the people who trusted them most about this being a revelation. From God Almighty, for cryin' out l...
by Not Buying It
Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have references to the Nov. Policy being given by revelation?
Replies: 12
Views: 402

Re: Does anyone have references to the Nov. Policy being given by revelation?

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=3391057&itype=cmsid That led to the Utah-based faith's new policy regarding same-sex Mormon couples — that they would be labeled "apostates" and that their children would not be allowed baptism and other LDS religious rites until they turn 18. "Each of us d...
by Not Buying It
Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:05 am
Forum: Support
Topic: POX policy gone!!!
Replies: 37
Views: 1071

Re: POX policy gone!!!

In an internet world, you can't just hope no one remembers what you said in the past, because this is what President Nelson said in February 2016: https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=3391057&itype=cmsid That led to the Utah-based faith's new policy regarding same-sex Mormon couples — that they...
by Not Buying It
Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Miraculous Events- rational explanations
Replies: 19
Views: 489

Re: Miraculous Events- rational explanations

Anyone who argues that Joseph could not have pulled off such a deception vastly underestimates the gullibility of much of the populace, and is likely underestimating their own gullibility. Mormons often live in the biggest glass house on the block when it comes to gullibility.
by Not Buying It
Sat Mar 30, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Packing Heat
Replies: 21
Views: 856

Re: Packing Heat

I find it ironic that some of the same people who call liberals “snowflakes” are too scared to go to a freakin’ Church meeting without packing heat. Given the questionable judgment, inability to calmly respond to a crisis, poor skills in reading situations and responding appropriately, and emotional...
by Not Buying It
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Basking in the reflected glory of your prophet husband
Replies: 19
Views: 610

Re: Basking in the reflected glory of your prophet husband

She's delusional, loves the spotlight, and these articles make her look like a complete wack-job. She’s always loved the spotlight. And has always loved trying to tell the rest of the Church how to live their lives, even before she married President Nelson. She is exactly the wrong kind of person t...
by Not Buying It
Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:48 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Basking in the reflected glory of your prophet husband
Replies: 19
Views: 610

Basking in the reflected glory of your prophet husband

I'm sorry, but I find Aunt Wendy pretty insufferable ( https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/03/21/this-week-mormon-land-not/ ): The first lady of Mormonism and others have noted before how God talks to the current Latter-day Saint prophet in the night. In a recent Church News video interview, Wendy ...
by Not Buying It
Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Don't be a dummy
Replies: 10
Views: 385

Re: Don't be a dummy

“Your standards are higher than that” - except in the case of a President of the Church who was misogynist, racist, treasure hunting, dabbling in folk magic, or marrying underage girls, in which case he was just doing what everyone else at the time was doing.
by Not Buying It
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: LDS Church Need to Repent
Replies: 8
Views: 375

Re: LDS Church Need to Repent

“The Church doesn’t seek apologies and we don’t give them” - Dallin H. Oaks I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for an apology from this organization. It doesn't operate under the same set of rules it imposed on you and me. As I recall, didn’t the Church kind of seek an apology when it ...
by Not Buying It
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joel Osteen and others
Replies: 19
Views: 568

Re: Joel Osteen and others

Joel Osteen makes me sick. No one who sells Jesus should have a house that big in a world where people go hungry. I don’t think Jesus likes what he is doing much either. I mean really, how can a guy make millions selling his teachings about a Savior who told his followers to sell all they had and g...
by Not Buying It
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: If the church were to admit and apologize...
Replies: 22
Views: 602

Re: If the church were to admit and apologize...

glass shelf wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:59 am
dogbite wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:45 am
it wouldnt change anything for me.
Me neither. It's too little too late.

That ship has sailed.
Yep. I mean, I'd respect them somewhat more if they did as long as the apology was accompanied with some much needed changes, but it wouldn't impact the status of my belief.
by Not Buying It
Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pope and RMN to meet today
Replies: 57
Views: 1461

Re: Pope and RMN to meet today

http://press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2019/03/09/190309a.html Now that truly puts it in perspective.... :lol: Now that is freakin' hilarious! Members are going on about how exciting this is, and all it is is President Nelson "and entourage" being accorded the same honor ...
by Not Buying It
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:08 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pope and RMN to meet today
Replies: 57
Views: 1461

Re: Pope and RMN to meet today

Wow, members I know on Facebook were sure gushing about this. Oh, wow, President Nelson met the Pope . Good golly the Church is true - because nothing solidifies the legitimacy of your own religion more than a meeting with the world leader of a bigger older richer famouser more well established reli...
by Not Buying It
Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormon/LDS/ETCOJCOLDS website name changes now official
Replies: 29
Views: 922

Re: Mormon/LDS/ETCOJCOLDS website name changes now official

Considering the changing tides in society and the church in general, I am not sure it is such a bad idea long term. A generation away gets to jettison the baggage of "Mormon". Not that it will make much difference, but might make it a bit easier to go to work in Mississippi. Maybe. But since member...
by Not Buying It
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joel Osteen and others
Replies: 19
Views: 568

Re: Joel Osteen and others

This sums it up better than I can. :D Yep, it's all about emotionally manipulative sales tactics. But hay, if Joel's sales spiel makes you happier than LD$-Inc.'s sales sales spiel, why not? Just don't give any of your money to either of them. Both organizations have way more than "sufficient for t...
by Not Buying It
Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joel Osteen and others
Replies: 19
Views: 568

Re: Joel Osteen and others

Personally I think they operate off the same emotion elevation the church uses. They are just better at it. This sums it up better than I can. :D Yep, it's all about emotionally manipulative sales tactics. But hay, if Joel's sales spiel makes you happier than LD$-Inc.'s sales sales spiel, why not? ...
by Not Buying It
Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Let's hear it - What is *your* belief as to what the temple was created for...
Replies: 21
Views: 556

Re: Let's hear it - What is *your* belief as to what the temple was created for...

Personally I think he realized a successful conman always needs something new to keep his victims on the line. I think he was always on the lookout for something new he could introduce, which is why so much of what he came up with seems random and inconsistent (e.g., none of his later doctrinal intr...
by Not Buying It
Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Question about LDS Church
Replies: 27
Views: 1039

Re: Question about LDS Church

...he knew he would have broad support from Mormons there simply because he is a prominent Mormon. It was the only state in the whole nation he could absolutely count on getting elected if he ran for the Senate.... and the good people of Utah fell for it. And Mormons fall for this stuff because in ...