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by Not Buying It
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church Renews Opposition to ERA
Replies: 34
Views: 579

Re: Church Renews Opposition to ERA

I personally think men ought to be a little careful in weighing in on how society is perfectly fair to women now and there is no need for something like the ERA. Until we've had a female President of the United States, until women have parity in financial compensation in the workplace, until women d...
by Not Buying It
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Fear as motivating conservative values
Replies: 18
Views: 535

Re: Fear as motivating conservative values

That article was totally bogus. It did not take much effort to poke holes in it. If you talk about conservative hot button issues of course they would get scared. You could easily flip that around and scare liberals. Both sides are scary in their own right. To bad compromise and rational communicat...
by Not Buying It
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: This American Life episode - Sexual Questions in Bishops' Youth Interviews
Replies: 1
Views: 172

This American Life episode - Sexual Questions in Bishops' Youth Interviews

Read or listen to this right now, it's a year old, maybe some of you have already seen it. Wow it brought back a flood of feelings and memories. There are a ton of things that need to change in the Church, but the sexual questions in Bishops' Youth interviews is one of the biggest. https://www.thisa...
by Not Buying It
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:20 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New message about choosing to believe
Replies: 23
Views: 1018

Re: New message about choosing to believe

I'm not bothering to watch this video. Waste of time. Until one of the Brethren comes right out and gives me a convincing reason why I should still believe in Joseph Smith even though he was a sexual predator instead of hiding behind anonymous hidden essays, they are wasting their breath. I don't ne...
by Not Buying It
Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Fear as motivating conservative values
Replies: 18
Views: 535

Re: Fear as motivating conservative values

Much of what you see going on politically in the U.S. right now is motivated by fear. Those fears are not always named, spoken, or articulated, but without getting too political I will just say I am frankly horrified by what I see people willing to tolerate because they think their fears are being t...
by Not Buying It
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Roll Red Roll, Joseph Smith, and looking the other way
Replies: 6
Views: 316

Re: Roll Red Roll, Joseph Smith, and looking the other way

Hagoth wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:19 pm
Sometimes I get the feeling that it's a bigger sin to call Joseph Smith a predator than for Joseph Smith to BE a predator.
Yep, I know that feeling. What he did isn't as big a deal as talking about what he did in the eyes of some members.
by Not Buying It
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Roll Red Roll, Joseph Smith, and looking the other way
Replies: 6
Views: 316

Roll Red Roll, Joseph Smith, and looking the other way

Just finished watching the film Roll Red Roll ( https://rollredrollfilm.com/ ) about two high school football players who were accused of raping a drunk girl in Steubenville, OH, in August 2012. It's a disturbing movie, not just due to the nature of the crime, but the way that most of the town just ...
by Not Buying It
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I choose love, full stop.
Replies: 70
Views: 2053

Re: I choose love, full stop.

Yeah - the double standard seems to fly by unnoticed by most engaging in it. “You must respect me - but I don’t have to respect you.” Rights without responsibilities. The Church changes in response to pressure. It always has. Give me one good reason why disaffected members can’t be the ones providi...
by Not Buying It
Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is #DezNat a Thing? Am I living under a rock?
Replies: 14
Views: 499

Is #DezNat a Thing? Am I living under a rock?

Is #DezNat a thing? Am I living under a rock? Why haven’t I heard of this before? If there really are people participating in this, that’s pretty horrible.

See this link: https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-cult- ... -community
by Not Buying It
Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:34 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I choose love, full stop.
Replies: 70
Views: 2053

Re: I choose love, full stop.

I couldn't say what NOM represents today, but this is certainly antithetical to the original vision. But, then I really don't think this is an accurate portrayal of the base concerns. The stated concern is too impersonal for this level of emotional intensity. Blashyrkh, how does this issue impact y...
by Not Buying It
Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Tithing settlement
Replies: 47
Views: 1517

Re: Tithing settlement

Wow reading through all this especially the last post by mormon 8 just makes me sick !!!! I never knew the depth of Bullshit stated by the Q15 . I literally have starved in past years to pay tithing!!!!!!!!! I I have to actively work to not think about what my family and I missed out on thanks to t...
by Not Buying It
Mon Oct 28, 2019 10:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Tithing settlement
Replies: 47
Views: 1517

Re: Tithing settlement

Ignore the text, and any others you get. It is highly impertinent for anyone to contact you to demand you meet with them to discuss your finances and voluntary contributions to a religious organization. They don't own you, they have no right to demand a meeting, and you owe them no response when the...
by Not Buying It
Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What if....
Replies: 19
Views: 574

Re: What if....

You probably wouldn't have been born. Haven't you watched enough movies to know to not screw with the space/time continuum? I mean really, the whole reason you were born was because two particular people got together at a particular time and created you. Without Mormonism to bring them together, som...
by Not Buying It
Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:23 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: More about me because someone asked me to share
Replies: 14
Views: 532

Re: More about me because someone asked me to share

So Apologeticislying (I’ll use your superhero name), I have to ask, your name certainly gives the impression that apologists play fast and loose with the truth, and of course one of our major criticisms of FAIR is all the deception and half-truths and spin they employ. I’m curious, to what extent ar...
by Not Buying It
Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Will the parents PLEASE WAKE UP!
Replies: 8
Views: 527

Re: Will the parents PLEASE WAKE UP!

Given the preponderance of its readership is LDS, I’d say the Daily Herald took a pretty bold stand on this:

https://www.heraldextra.com/news/opinio ... 0c328.html
by Not Buying It
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Will the parents PLEASE WAKE UP!
Replies: 8
Views: 527

Re: Will the parents PLEASE WAKE UP!

Aren’t you guys paying attention to the “full stop” thread? Quit trying to change the Church! Just kidding. Tell you what, exploitation of members was baked into the organization from the very beginning by Joseph Smith and Brigham Young. It was fundamentally set up to exploit people. That predators ...
by Not Buying It
Mon Oct 21, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I choose love, full stop.
Replies: 70
Views: 2053

Re: I choose love, full stop.

Personally I’m having trouble understanding the argument against attempting to change a Church that changes as much as the LDS Church does. Are you a polygamist? Is the priesthood withheld from black members of your ward? Can that gay couple you know have their child baptized? Do you go to three hou...
by Not Buying It
Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I hate to even have to ask this question
Replies: 19
Views: 778

Re: I hate to even have to ask this question

The practice of Bishops being alone with youth should have ended, well, it never should have started. I can't even begin to describe how crazy it is that a guy like that was in a position to be alone in a room with young people. The Church obviously doesn't know who is and who is not going to be a p...
by Not Buying It
Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:28 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I choose love, full stop.
Replies: 70
Views: 2053

Re: I choose love, full stop.

So where do you draw the line? Do you protest and make a fuss because the church believes that God lives near Kolob? Or let's say you believe in infant baptism yet the church believes differently. Do you again throw a fit because the Church's beliefs run contrary to yours? You think that the BofM i...
by Not Buying It
Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Calling to Repentance
Replies: 10
Views: 441

Re: Calling to Repentance

This is an awesome thread. What I would most like to see (and also the least likely thing I will ever see): the First Presidency live on BYU tv doing weekly debates with all comers: atheists, evangelicals, apostates, actual theologians, RFM, parents of transgender children, doctors with questions a...