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I'm here. I wonder if you will still feel that way when Trump wins. CNN just took Georgia and AZ away from Biden, as of 10pm 11/09/2020 There are others coming. You guys were so quick to cry Russia in 2016. We are crying Democrats. But this isn't a hoax. We have video, testimony, confessions, obvio...

You literally paid cold, hard cash for access to the temple. Take what you paid for. I think it would be tragic to miss her wedding out of some kind of misguided sense of principle. Look at it this way - the Church doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously. If you miss the wedding because you feel like ...

Why can't we just let adults be adults and run their own lives? :?: If they want to come to church, they know where we are. If we provide any amount of real meaning or utility then they'll want to come. On the other hand, if they've decided they're just as well off without hours upon hours of weekl...

I also refuse to take the blame for any of this. It’s not my fault joseph made it up. It’s not my fault the church has hidden the facts and white washed the narrative. I feel betrayed. This will always be my position - it isn’t my fault I was born into a fraudulent religion that none of the family ...

I really hope no one here is buying the "stolen election" nonsense", I'd like to think we are all here partly because at some point we learned to recognize nonsense when we see it. And I definitely hope none of you are the types that are making suggestions of violence - this is America, we don't re...

Seems to put the lie to the Brethren’s claim that “we are as transparent as we know how to be”.

When an organization punishes you for telling the truth, that’s a pretty big red flag. If you ask me, it’s time to get out of Dodge if you are in a position to do so.

I really hope no one here is buying the "stolen election" nonsense", I'd like to think we are all here partly because at some point we learned to recognize nonsense when we see it. And I definitely hope none of you are the types that are making suggestions of violence - this is America, we don't rea...

Ha! I like your list better RR. And I like your categorization system, because while everyone one of them fail to meet my decency standards as well, some are dangerous and some are just cogs in the machine. And of the dangerous ones, clearly Presidents Nelson and Oaks are the dangerous ones with the...

So it's been kind of quiet around here lately - I nicked the list below from Reddit ( https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/joug76/rating_the_q15/ ). Personally I think whoever did this was being pretty generous, I am curious about what the rest of you think: Here's my rating list, with explana...

A new record high today of COVID-19 cases in the US. CBS news showed a clip from 4 months ago of Fauci saying if the administration didn't start taking the virus more seriously we could see daily infection rates of 100,000 by winter. The CDC has a better handle on prophesy than the COB. How dare yo...

However it had it's negatives. I had problems with leadership abuse. I saw how popularity and ego worked within the church and how it could be used to hurt people. At one point, I came very close to getting sent home due to a zone leader who lied to the mission president about me. I was very bitter...

I thought this tweet from Will Swenson was great: Screen Shot 2020-11-02 at 12.49.29 PM.png Perfect! All joking aside, the Church really should have spoken out about one of their religious figures being co-opted by an idiot politician. But hey, if the Church is OK with it, before long every politic...

My TBM MIL is coming completely unhinged watching the current election play out. For four years she has been holding on to the delusion that Trump is the savior of American democracy and the constitution as a whole. Somehow, she completely disregards all of Trump's attempts to undermine the validit...

Idiot.

The crux of the matter is the church sends you out with the notion you are performing a great act, but in reality you are selling snake oil. And that is a bad deal anyway you look at it. No one should be coerced into selling a fraud. Its unethical regardless of the sometimes personal growth some ex...

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Wed Oct 21, 2020 10:21 am

Lost a cousin to Covid.

So sorry to hear it.

That is what scares Bednar. That is why he sows suspicion and mistrust regarding government and scientific regulations meant to safeguard the people. And that is how we know he is no loving prophet of God. He doesn't care for the safety of his flock. He cares that his time to reign will come and he...

Elder Bednar is such a blowhard. Every time he opens his mouth some kind of pretentious ridiculousness ensues. https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/10/14/21514610/elder-david-a-bednar-apostle-speaks-covid-19-response-g-20-interfaith-forum-riyadh-saudi-arabia “My call is for respect, accommodation and ...

Well, my wife finally told me she wants to get a divorce today. I guess it is probably for the best. I don't think it has much to do with the church, but that may have been what pushed things over the tipping point. Things have been dead in our marriage for a long time. I agree that there is not mu...

I listened at home to the live streamed testimony in my ward yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to find that a couple of members in their testimonies said to the effect, "I'm not sure if the church is true but believe in Jesus". There were other more orthodox testimonies and one of the ones tha...