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by Not Buying It
Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pres Nelson's BYU Speech Today
Replies: 54
Views: 1414

Re: Pres Nelson's BYU Speech Today

The transcript is here: https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/russell- ... -laws-god/

Good thing President Nelson is less than a bigot than God, without his supplication God never would have decided to change that policy. You’re my hero President Nelson!!!
by Not Buying It
Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:41 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Replies: 55
Views: 1210

Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring

Terryl Givens is aware the narrative is fundamentally flawed (or he wouldn't be doing what he is doing) yet encourages people to make decisions based on that flawed narrative I think this is what I disagree with. I dont think Givens knows or accepts that the narrative is fundamentally flawed, in fa...
by Not Buying It
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:41 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: REVELATION TIME: President Nelson Announces Upcoming Important Message for Young People
Replies: 19
Views: 659

Re: REVELATION TIME: President Nelson Announces Upcoming Important Message for Young People

We all know what this is really about. President Nelson loves loves loves the attention he gets as The Prophet, and now that his birthday bash is over he's hurting for attention. He doesn't really have a special message for the young people, he just likes the ego stroking he gets when he plays proph...
by Not Buying It
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Magic
Replies: 32
Views: 541

Re: Magic

The poor priest who stumbles a bit while saying the sacrament prayer must repeat it over and over until the words are perfect. That my friends is not a prayer, it's a spell. If the tip of your toe doesn't get completely submerged at baptism Jesus can't accept you. Definitely magic. A spell - now th...
by Not Buying It
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Holy Cow!!! Devastating TV ad
Replies: 24
Views: 725

Re: Holy Cow!!! Devastating TV ad

Geez people. The Church is totally on top of this. The prophets, seers, and revelators who lead this Church with such prescience and prognostication just recently implemented a whole half hour of online training to fix this decades old problem. Too little too late as always.
by Not Buying It
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Magic
Replies: 32
Views: 541

Re: Magic

In Mormon living rooms all across America on the night before the first day of school, Mormon families gather and the father (never, ever the mother) puts his hands on the head of each school-age child in turn and gives them a father's blessing, which apparently is no more efficacious than chance at...
by Not Buying It
Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "Doubts are dangerous" - Elder Craig Christensen to LDS youth
Replies: 13
Views: 384

Re: "Doubts are dangerous" - Apostle Craig Christensen to LDS youth

Well, he isn't an apostle. But that doesn't mean he isn't a pompous windbag. I guess in reality he's really as much as an apostle as the 12, being's as they aren't really apostles. He an apostle as much as Elder Oaks or Elder Bednar or Donald Trump or RuPaul or you or I or anyone else. But officiall...
by Not Buying It
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: REVELATION TIME: President Nelson Announces Upcoming Important Message for Young People
Replies: 19
Views: 659

Re: REVELATION TIME: President Nelson Announces Upcoming Important Message for Young People

I can already tell you what the message will be:
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by Not Buying It
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Replies: 55
Views: 1210

Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring

I get that Givens is useful for some questioning members. He is an alternate voice, a deviation from what is heard from the pulpit. He does legitimize some issues the Brethren would rather pretend don't exist. I understand why some of you are OK with him or even accepting of him. And to be honest, I...
by Not Buying It
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Replies: 55
Views: 1210

Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring

The whole church is set up as one big priestcraft operation, one big MLM, one huge real estate conglomerate, with Mormons ripping each other off right, left and centre. It's always been that way, and I don't see it changing anytime soon. I'm just glad I'm not the one getting ripped off anymore. I h...
by Not Buying It
Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Replies: 55
Views: 1210

Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring

In my estimation, Terryl Givens is guilty of priestcraft, he is one of those men who “preach and set themselves up for a light unto the world, that they may get gain and praise of the world; but they seek not the Welfare of Zion. But the laborer in Zion shall labor for Zion; for if they labor for m...
by Not Buying It
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Who would you like to meet in the after life?
Replies: 28
Views: 533

Re: Who would you like to meet in the after life?

Joseph Smith - so I could kick him in the balls. That bastard screwed things up for me real good. Before you do that, take a good look at the guy standing next to him with the long hair and disconcerting expression. That's Orrin Porter Rockwell. Might want to look for a good escape route before you...
by Not Buying It
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Replies: 55
Views: 1210

Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring

Terryl Givens didn’t travel far and wide through the Church giving firesides for free. I don’t know who was financing that, but someone was. And while he probably doesn’t get rich off of his books, if his motivation is solely to help people, why sell a book? He could provide all his information for ...
by Not Buying It
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Replies: 55
Views: 1210

Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring

Whatever Terryl Givens, you mealy-mouthed apologist who sells a watered-down version of cafeteria Mormonism that has never actually existed in this or any other dimension of reality to try and get people to stay in what is actually an unreasonably controlling and oppressive religion. You purveyor of...
by Not Buying It
Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Things I learned in seminary
Replies: 19
Views: 540

Re: Things I learned in seminary

Seminary is a veritable fountain of goofball Mormon craziness. 99% of all of the crazy ideas in Mormonism have been taught in a seminary class at one time or another. The reason is you have to have a screw loose to want to be a seminary teacher in the first place (out in the "mission field" you have...
by Not Buying It
Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:03 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Who would you like to meet in the after life?
Replies: 28
Views: 533

Re: Who would you like to meet in the after life?

Joseph Smith - so I could kick him in the balls. That bastard screwed things up for me real good.
by Not Buying It
Mon Sep 09, 2019 11:01 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Russell M. Nelson Birthday Bash
Replies: 22
Views: 636

Re: Russell M. Nelson Birthday Bash

He is remarkably healthy and strong for a 95yo. I am impressed at how healthy Oaks is too. He could live another 10 years 😂 My wife showed me some highlights of the program this morning and he really is a pretty impressive guy in many ways. Come to think of it, my wife is also a very impressive per...
by Not Buying It
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Writer excommunicated during ‘September Six’ purge loses her bid to rejoin the LDS Church
Replies: 22
Views: 671

Re: Writer excommunicated during ‘September Six’ purge loses her bid to rejoin the LDS Church

This is powerful - our old friend Robert Kirby tells us exactly what kind of person for whom the First Presidency refused rebaptism and refused to restore her temple sealing with her departed husband:

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/kirby/20 ... us-lavina/
by Not Buying It
Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Russell M. Nelson Birthday Bash
Replies: 22
Views: 636

Re: Russell M. Nelson Birthday Bash

And God almighty looked down from the heavens and said “You know, there’s a ton of crap going on in the world, and there are a lot of people suffering, but what I really, really want is for my prophet and mouthpiece to blow a lot of my Church’s money throwing himself a huge birthday celebration. Aft...
by Not Buying It
Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thought Experiment - Separating Families
Replies: 6
Views: 203

Thought Experiment - Separating Families

Here’s a thought experiment. If you asked the First Presidency or your local stake presidency if they thought it would be appropriate Church discipline to tell a member facing discipline they couldn’t see their family again in this life, they’d look at you like you were nuts. Of course that wouldn’t...