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by Not Buying It
Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Kevin Pearson
Replies: 8
Views: 248

Re: Elder Kevin Pearson

This guy came right out of arguably the worst part of corporate America, and he seems to act like members are the employees of a churlish employer. I put this guy ahead of Bednar for toolyness. He seems to be trying hard for a front row red chair. Hoping he makes emeritus age first. Sounds like the...
by Not Buying It
Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Effectivemess of the Great Re-Branding
Replies: 1
Views: 107

Re: Effectivemess of the Great Re-Branding

I'm not a good person to ask, I don't pay attention anymore. But I will tell you this - for someone who is supposed to be a mouthpiece of the Almighty, its a piss poor showing as a prophet, seer, and revelator when the best you can point to as evidence of your prophetic mantle is renaming some dumb ...
by Not Buying It
Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Kevin Pearson
Replies: 8
Views: 248

Re: Elder Kevin Pearson

There's a link to the talk on the LDS Freedom Forum website, but I'll be damned if I am going to provide a link that sends any traffic to that site. You can go there on your own if you want and find it as long as I am not directly responsible for sending you there. Dude's a tool. "God already told t...
by Not Buying It
Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sinking in how racist the Church made me
Replies: 3
Views: 102

Re: Sinking in how racist the Church made me

ETA - Alas' comment about Hispanics reminds that Utah is NOT a low diversity area. I was wrong. I will be better. That is something I need to work on as well. I sometimes tell people where I grew up everyone was white, but that isn't true, we had a small but visible Hispanic population in Idaho. Bu...
by Not Buying It
Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:20 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sinking in how racist the Church made me
Replies: 3
Views: 102

Sinking in how racist the Church made me

Yesterday I was helping to lead a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion activity at the institution where I work which involved a lot of sharing of personal experiences. I had never shared this with anyone at work, but I told everyone how I was raised in a religion that taught me that people were born bl...
by Not Buying It
Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Statement on AP article - training of those who work with children?
Replies: 12
Views: 280

Re: Church Statement on AP article - training of those who work with children?

..but it's something the church can point to and say, "look, we do stuff!" Which is the only reason they even did this...like so much in LDS culture it is all about the appearance over the substance. -lost Yes, and I should also note that the timing was clearly a response to the Prophet Sam Young's...
by Not Buying It
Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:50 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church Statement on AP article - training of those who work with children?
Replies: 12
Views: 280

Church Statement on AP article - training of those who work with children?

So the Church has released a statement on the AP article: https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-offers-statement-help-line-abuse Help me out with this statement: Any member serving in a role with children or youth is required to complete a training every few years about how to watc...
by Not Buying It
Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:43 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Convinced the Q15 know the truth
Replies: 15
Views: 398

Re: Convinced the Q15 know the truth

This one? https://youtu.be/qI4nsngvcGw Well, keep in mind the source of the story is George P. Lee. This George P. Lee: https://www.deseret.com/1994/10/11/19135762/lee-accepts-plea-bargain-in-child-sexual-abuse-case I guess I am not convinced by a story whose provenance is George P. Lee to Ogden Kr...
by Not Buying It
Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:48 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Convinced the Q15 know the truth
Replies: 15
Views: 398

Re: Convinced the Q15 know the truth

Oh, I don't know that someone as arrogant as Bruce McConkie is capable of the self-examination a deathbed confession would require. I'm skeptical. As for the Q15 knowing, I think they know and they don't. They know the Church doesn't work the way most members think it does, they know there are some ...
by Not Buying It
Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen
Replies: 27
Views: 689

Re: “By their fruits ye shall know them.” (Matt. 7:20) - Seven years of sex abuse: How Mormon officials let it happen

First, I want to express support for anyone of you who ever experienced something like this. Second, the Church's response to situations like this tells you everything you need to know about the organization really - there is little concern for the victims, the organization's focus is always on defe...
by Not Buying It
Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Renlund story makes me mad
Replies: 18
Views: 659

Re: Renlund story makes me mad

No non-member who heard this talk would be at all interested in whether the proper wording was used because they would be too busy trying to figure out what kind of bizarre cult even has a healing ritual like that.
by Not Buying It
Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Robert Kirby retire?
Replies: 8
Views: 524

Re: Did Robert Kirby retire?

How would you like to have a name like Gordon Monson? Ouch. I'd have changed that in a heartbeat.
by Not Buying It
Thu Jul 28, 2022 10:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Losing our Eternal Families
Replies: 10
Views: 512

Re: Losing our Eternal Families

What does an eternal family even look like? A man and one or more women, sure. But you aren't gonna be living in a house with your kids - and their kids, and their kids' kids, and on and on ad infinitum. People picture it as being with with spouse(s) and kids, but the kids will have families of thei...
by Not Buying It
Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The church is burning printing presses
Replies: 16
Views: 1361

Re: The church is burning printing presses

Let me make sure I understand this - the Church pressured a publication they do not own to remove an article that was less then flattering about them? That's outrageous. No organization, religious or otherwise, should have the kind of power that allows them to censor an article in a publication they...
by Not Buying It
Thu Jun 30, 2022 5:46 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Source Says There Is Disarray Among the Q15
Replies: 29
Views: 1484

Re: Source Says There Is Disarray Among the Q15

I always take these things with a grain of salt. The source may very well work for the church, but even then you don't know exactly what it means. The bits I saw were that the "disarray" is over social issues and the secondary source mentioned that temple attendance is so low that the temple dept d...
by Not Buying It
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Keep Sweet" or I will break you.
Replies: 25
Views: 2079

Re: "Keep Sweet" or I will break you.

It actually kind of pissed me off they went so easy on the LDS Church. The whole reason Rulon and Warren Jeffs were able to have the power to make the lives of so many of their followers to miserable is because Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and John Taylor and their gang laid the groundwork. The kind...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:45 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Are LDS hyper-sensitive about religion?
Replies: 7
Views: 647

Re: Are LDS hyper-sensitive about religion?

Many elements of Latter-Day Saint history and doctrine sound weird, cultish, and/or humorous when spoken out loud or by non-members. So, yes, I think many LDS people are hypersensitive about having outsiders - or even insiders in some cases - talk about those things. Mormons are also raised with a ...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:37 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is it wrong to be apathetic to the world’s problems?
Replies: 10
Views: 793

Re: Is it wrong to be apathetic to the world’s problems?

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference. - Reinhold Niebuhr, 1932 It's a VERY big world and a person is a VERY small part of it. You an drive yourself insane caring for all the world's problems. Apathy is...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Holy Fetch! (Update…)
Replies: 38
Views: 2181

Re: Holy Fetch!

I am glad to hear she may be coming around, and I hope things continue to move in that direction. Something similar happened with my wife about a year ago, I didn't think she was ever going to come around, then a Youtuber she watches did a takedown of the Church and destroyed her shelf. Gotta admit,...
by Not Buying It
Mon Jun 13, 2022 5:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Education and commitment
Replies: 11
Views: 810

Re: Education and commitment

You know, I am kind of offended that your referred to this Church leader as simply "David Bednar". The appropriate name to reference him by is "Susan Bednar's Husband". I apologize profusely for my disrespect to Susan Bednar's husband's wife. His middle name is Pickles 🤣 Heh, I'd forgotten about th...