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I struggle with the word “disappoint”. In being my authentic self, I am not taking assertive action to impose anything negative on those around me, but because of the indoctrination they have, they will inflict disappointment on themselves. If I drink a beer, it causes no harm to my TBM family if the ...

... No where does the church or Ensign Peak say a reason for hiding this money was a fear that people would stop paying tithing. That is an assumption that others have made. ... Meanwhile, somewhere else on the internet: EPA.jpg I think the leadership is giving general members way too much credit ...

I listened to the Mormon Stories episode about this today. I highly recommend it. https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/lds-church-hiding-money-mark-pugsley/ The church did some really slimy stuff. No incompetency or misunderstandings here, just calculated, deliberate dishonesty for profit. These ...

JMHO: - The amount of the fine is a joke. - Paying the fine is an admission they were dishonest. - Paying the fine and then saying “The matter is closed” is akin to buying an indulgence. - If the church really cared about honest dealings, each of the money managers and their leadership would have the ...

lostinmiddlemormonism wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:47 pm With that last RMN quote he surpasses the number of times quoted than Jesus.

Jesus has been quoted (by my count) 16 times this conference...and Rusty....17!

I wonder if RMN needs a refractory period between all of these spiritual bj’s.

I wasn’t listening but I thought I saw a flash of Ezra Benson come up on the screen while Rusty was yammering. Was that my imagination or did Rusty pay homage to ETB? If so it seems like another kick in the celesticals for Gordon and Tommy. Oh Rusty, you poor demon haunted billionaire. The bad guys w ...

It's hard when you don't feel close to the people closest to you. This is the hardest thing for me. I just sat through two talks where the speakers used examples of people leaving the church to show how families and people are doomed for life failure and despair. I personally don’t give a crap what ...

I didn’t see any clarification in that letter regarding what the actual definition of tithing is. Obviously god is worried about what to call his money collecting scheme but still wants to keep the interpretation vague so members pay to the fullest that their fear drives them to.

RR, Wow. Just wow. I’ve been on NoM since ~2008, seen lots of people come and go, even talked with you way back when we we’re doing conference calls (ah the olden days). You were always the one who I looked up to as a hero of sorts. You PIMO, spouse in as in as IN as it gets. (This is and continues t ...

I’m not sure why, but I can’t seem to get the Ukrainian war out of my mind. I’ve had a pit in my stomach since the invasion. I feel so bad for those young people and everyday citizens who are paying the ultimate price. I feel helpless. I am so disappointed in humans. The tribal mindset will be our de ...

I thought China was super special. As a kid I remember fervent prayers asking the Lord to soften the hearts of the people in China. So someday the missionaries could open the country for proselytizing. I remember the same. Then it was a miracle and fulfilled prophesy when missionaries were finally ...

He’s being as truthful as he knows how to be.

Why does god want or need us to suffer at all? I don’t find it necessary to make my kids needlessly suffer. If that’s how god rolls, then I do t want to be like him or want to ever be with him again. Makes sense for me once I came to the conclusion that religion is all made up. Like John Larsen said, ...

Says who Russell? You, that’s who. Who are you to plant more seeds of anger and sadness in the hearts of people like my wife. Instead of open arms, tighten the stance on us vs them. God this sucks.

One comment on Brad Wilcox’s talk… he said that boy needed to “stop hating himself and start loving Jesus”. What he should have said is “stop hating himself and start loving HIMSELF!” The message is still that he’s a horrible kid, just now he knows he’s horrible but the church (Jesus) is the only thi ...

Global warming will lead to more drought and food shortages. Water in the Hoover Dam is at a historic low. This ^^ The church is building a multi-hundred million dollar temple just around the corner from my home. Why? Wouldn’t that money be much better spent building infrastructure to help preserve ...

Red Ryder wrote: ↑Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:28 pm Did you get the heavy metal music playing again inside your brain you described at lunch?

I was interested before, but I’m convinced now. Where do I sign up?

Stake priesthood leadership meetings are equally pointless and redundant. The last time I went to one they started by making a big deal about how we were there to receive special instruction that could only be obtained through this exclusive meeting. Then they had a bunch of rambling generic talks ...

I'm still pissed that Nelson ruined what would have been our first ever positive session score Sunday morning. What a Debbie Downer! So much forward momentum obliterated by a single talk. :roll: My TBM DW told me this was her favorite talk. So for the willfully ignorant, it wasn’t necessarily a bad ...

My guess is a combo of 1 & 4. They’ll just keep the same mantra as always about how all is well in the good ship Zion, and once it plays out they’ll bask in the glow of the faithful who find anything to latch onto to prove the profits knew it all along.