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by w2mz
Tue Sep 05, 2023 2:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Welcome to the Tuesday Podcast Club!
Replies: 33
Views: 20340

Re: Welcome to the Tuesday Podcast Club!

I struggle with the word “disappoint”. In being my authentic self, I am not taking assertive action to impose anything negative on those around me, but because of the indoctrination they have, they will inflict disappointment on themselves. If I drink a beer, it causes no harm to my TBM family if th...
by w2mz
Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
Replies: 64
Views: 5570

Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine

... No where does the church or Ensign Peak say a reason for hiding this money was a fear that people would stop paying tithing. That is an assumption that others have made. ... Meanwhile, somewhere else on the internet: EPA.jpg I think the leadership is giving general members way too much credit. ...
by w2mz
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
Replies: 64
Views: 5570

Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine

I listened to the Mormon Stories episode about this today. I highly recommend it. https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/lds-church-hiding-money-mark-pugsley/ The church did some really slimy stuff. No incompetency or misunderstandings here, just calculated, deliberate dishonesty for profit. These a...
by w2mz
Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:33 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine
Replies: 64
Views: 5570

Re: Church paying $5 Million SEC fine

JMHO: - The amount of the fine is a joke. - Paying the fine is an admission they were dishonest. - Paying the fine and then saying “The matter is closed” is akin to buying an indulgence. - If the church really cared about honest dealings, each of the money managers and their leadership would have th...
by w2mz
Sun Oct 02, 2022 2:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!
Replies: 77
Views: 4706

Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2022!!!

lostinmiddlemormonism wrote:
Sun Oct 02, 2022 1:47 pm
With that last RMN quote he surpasses the number of times quoted than Jesus.

Jesus has been quoted (by my count) 16 times this conference...and Rusty....17!

:)
I wonder if RMN needs a refractory period between all of these spiritual bj’s.
by w2mz
Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag
Replies: 89
Views: 7459

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2022 - for Mopag

I wasn’t listening but I thought I saw a flash of Ezra Benson come up on the screen while Rusty was yammering. Was that my imagination or did Rusty pay homage to ETB? If so it seems like another kick in the celesticals for Gordon and Tommy. Oh Rusty, you poor demon haunted billionaire. The bad guys ...
by w2mz
Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How do you stay sane and grounded?
Replies: 12
Views: 1510

Re: How do you stay sane and grounded?

It's hard when you don't feel close to the people closest to you. This is the hardest thing for me. I just sat through two talks where the speakers used examples of people leaving the church to show how families and people are doomed for life failure and despair. I personally don’t give a crap what...
by w2mz
Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: No more “tithing settlement…”
Replies: 23
Views: 3149

Re: No more “tithing settlement…”

I didn’t see any clarification in that letter regarding what the actual definition of tithing is. Obviously god is worried about what to call his money collecting scheme but still wants to keep the interpretation vague so members pay to the fullest that their fear drives them to.
by w2mz
Thu Jun 09, 2022 6:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Holy Fetch! (Update…)
Replies: 40
Views: 6885

Re: Holy Fetch!

RR, Wow. Just wow. I’ve been on NoM since ~2008, seen lots of people come and go, even talked with you way back when we we’re doing conference calls (ah the olden days). You were always the one who I looked up to as a hero of sorts. You PIMO, spouse in as in as IN as it gets. (This is and continues ...
by w2mz
Thu Mar 03, 2022 7:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is the world (finally) ending?
Replies: 15
Views: 2895

Re: Is the world (finally) ending?

I’m not sure why, but I can’t seem to get the Ukrainian war out of my mind. I’ve had a pit in my stomach since the invasion. I feel so bad for those young people and everyday citizens who are paying the ultimate price. I feel helpless. I am so disappointed in humans. The tribal mindset will be our d...
by w2mz
Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Battleground Africa
Replies: 20
Views: 4770

Re: Battleground Africa

I thought China was super special. As a kid I remember fervent prayers asking the Lord to soften the hearts of the people in China. So someday the missionaries could open the country for proselytizing. I remember the same. Then it was a miracle and fulfilled prophesy when missionaries were finally ...
by w2mz
Sun Oct 03, 2021 1:46 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021
Replies: 89
Views: 18424

Re: NOMference Sunday afternoon Fall 2021

Why does god want or need us to suffer at all? I don’t find it necessary to make my kids needlessly suffer. If that’s how god rolls, then I do t want to be like him or want to ever be with him again. Makes sense for me once I came to the conclusion that religion is all made up. Like John Larsen said...
by w2mz
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2021
Replies: 58
Views: 11097

Re: NOMference Sunday Morning Fall 2021

Says who Russell? You, that’s who. Who are you to plant more seeds of anger and sadness in the hearts of people like my wife. Instead of open arms, tighten the stance on us vs them. God this sucks.
by w2mz
Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Special Session
Replies: 81
Views: 13348

Re: NOMference Special Session

One comment on Brad Wilcox’s talk… he said that boy needed to “stop hating himself and start loving Jesus”. What he should have said is “stop hating himself and start loving HIMSELF!” The message is still that he’s a horrible kid, just now he knows he’s horrible but the church (Jesus) is the only th...
by w2mz
Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Hunger in Africa and Latin America
Replies: 10
Views: 4290

Re: Hunger in Africa and Latin America

Global warming will lead to more drought and food shortages. Water in the Hoover Dam is at a historic low. This ^^ The church is building a multi-hundred million dollar temple just around the corner from my home. Why? Wouldn’t that money be much better spent building infrastructure to help preserve...
by w2mz
Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:34 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Return and Report: Magic Mushrooms in the Desert
Replies: 48
Views: 13563

Re: Return and Report: Magic Mushrooms in the Desert

Red Ryder wrote:
Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:28 pm
Did you get the heavy metal music playing again inside your brain you described at lunch?
I was interested before, but I’m convinced now. Where do I sign up?
by w2mz
Sat Jun 12, 2021 11:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Saturday evening General Conference is canceled
Replies: 26
Views: 7821

Re: Saturday evening General Conference is canceled

Stake priesthood leadership meetings are equally pointless and redundant. The last time I went to one they started by making a big deal about how we were there to receive special instruction that could only be obtained through this exclusive meeting. Then they had a bunch of rambling generic talks ...
by w2mz
Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Scores - April 2021
Replies: 7
Views: 2819

Re: NOMference Scores - April 2021

I'm still pissed that Nelson ruined what would have been our first ever positive session score Sunday morning. What a Debbie Downer! So much forward momentum obliterated by a single talk. :roll: My TBM DW told me this was her favorite talk. So for the willfully ignorant, it wasn’t necessarily a bad...
by w2mz
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: April Conference and the Elephant in the Chapel
Replies: 25
Views: 7211

Re: April Conference and the Elephant in the Chapel

My guess is a combo of 1 & 4. They’ll just keep the same mantra as always about how all is well in the good ship Zion, and once it plays out they’ll bask in the glow of the faithful who find anything to latch onto to prove the profits knew it all along.