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by rockslider
Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:11 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi I'm stealthbishop
Replies: 39
Views: 34975

Re: Hi I'm stealthbishop

Thank you for signing that apology!
by rockslider
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:37 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Fact-checking Saints -Chapter 38 up 11/15 (Attempt to kill Boggs, Spiritual Wifery, Joseph's polygamy)
Replies: 29
Views: 18029

Re: Starting a review/fact-check of Saints... chapter one done... but is it helpful or worthwhile?

Shame on me, first time I've even heard of/seen the site https://www.ldsdiscussions.com Not only did I enjoy your first saints chapter, I spent some time reading the Summary section. I now look forward to reading the essays anew with the given annotations. Nice! Spreading the word: http://mormondisc...
by rockslider
Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dissecting Elder Cook on Church History
Replies: 24
Views: 12200

Re: Dissecting Elder Cook on Church History

Once again a home run podcast.

It was mentioned that Bill asked Steven four questions. Might I ask what those were?
by rockslider
Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: SAM
Replies: 11
Views: 5146

Re: SAM

Speaking of Sam, Sam Young that is ... wow Thursday and no word yet?
by rockslider
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Traditional Bouncing of the Baby
Replies: 11
Views: 7301

Re: Traditional Bouncing of the Baby

Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:37 am
Also, the thought of enduring an SM just to support my relatives is already making me nauseous.
I have a grandson baptism coming up next month. I'm debating no showing for this one.
by rockslider
Tue Sep 11, 2018 10:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Trying to Remember 9/11
Replies: 5
Views: 3412

Re: Trying to Remember 9/11

I have now read three books on the MMM. I still can't explain why anyone thought it was necessary. It's so baffling. However, as a TBM, the accounts scared me from believing that obedience was morally right. Morality is determined by the action, not by who told you to do it. Blazerb, I'm sorry for ...
by rockslider
Mon Sep 10, 2018 11:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Cook to Take on Church History Questions!
Replies: 76
Views: 40896

Re: Elder Cook to Take on Church History Questions!

They've had 30-90 years to cover many of these topics and they haven't. They made the decision to leave it alone, to not discuss it, to hope that no one ever noticed. Worse yet, they excommunicated individuals who brought any of it to the public eye. They owe big apologies to many individuals and t...
by rockslider
Sun Sep 09, 2018 2:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Cook to Take on Church History Questions!
Replies: 76
Views: 40896

Re: Elder Cook to Take on Church History Questions!

I can't wait for the rfm podcast that is sure to result from this
by rockslider
Fri Sep 07, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: ATF Podcast Episode: Good luck litigating the Mormon church
Replies: 11
Views: 7134

Re: ATF Podcast Episode: Good luck litigating the Mormon church

What a painful listen.

One must have to stop by the cross roads before bothering to apply at Kirton McConkie.

How does an employee there live with themselves?
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Standard of Truth?
Replies: 21
Views: 11691

Re: The Standard of Truth?

I wonder if they covered JS getting tarred and feathered? JS could never keep his hands off of the girls. It's kind of unfortunate that the doctor they brought along chickened out. If you have lots of walk/drive time and like to listen to podcasts, these are a pretty good look at the history of the ...
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Physics verses the Mind
Replies: 1
Views: 1335

Physics verses the Mind

For the last year or so I've been into listening to formal debates. Typically my confirmation bias always leans heavy to one side. However, the following debate found me very interested in both sides. Consciousness seems to be one of the last frontiers (at least to westerners). I found this excellen...
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 21793

Re: There is no such thing as free will

To me, that's the same as defining a person as something that does not include their subconscious. If the decision came from my subconscious thinking, the way I define "me," it still came from me (proximally of course--I think "me" came from a long chain of events I didn't control). I debated posti...
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 3:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 21793

Re: There is no such thing as free will

profit_seizer wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:51 pm
Note: this is my last word on Hitch, Harris, or even Dawkins. I'm not here to pick fights.
I did not sense, nor feel any fight? Discussion has been good so far, no?
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:25 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 21793

Re: There is no such thing as free will

profit_seizer wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:17 pm
Yeah, not a huge fan of The Hitch.
Different strokes for different folks ... first time I watched a Hitch debate I was super impressed, Sam a notch or two below Hitch but still enjoy most of his stuff.


Is there a link where I can read your story profit_seizer?
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 21793

Re: There is no such thing as free will

profit_seizer wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:29 am

His philosophical positions sit on some pretty badly shifting sands and tend toward a weird sort of pseudo-philosophical Islamophobia.

I suppose you feel the same about Christopher Hitchens?
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 21793

Re: There is no such thing as free will

Zack, I think you got Sam down ok. In that video he only went so far as to tie it to a better morality. The prison video was send to me by my son when I shared the link with him. Sam gave an example that struck me. He asked, "think of a city". In my mind there is a bit of a pause then about 4 cities...
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:42 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Bitter Vet
Replies: 4
Views: 3675

Re: Bitter Vet

Thanks!

I started poking around in the various topics. Doctrine appears safe for now. I assume it would be best for this Bitter $LDSInc vet to avoid giving advice in the other topics.

I say/question this based on a topic I think I'll start up in doctrine.
by rockslider
Thu Sep 06, 2018 10:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: There is no such thing as free will
Replies: 36
Views: 21793

Re: There is no such thing as free will

But if anything the Norway video makes an excellent case for free will. It struck me that with ones negative; born with issues, cause/effect and ones established world view of a long time - say 30 years, just might not take an equal amount of positive cause/effect, newly established world view to o...