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by Emower
Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Truth and Evolution
Replies: 8
Views: 130

Re: Truth and Evolution

I'm sorry, I have to make some cases for truth over payoff. We can get a larger payoff if we understand the truth more fully. Humanity has been so successful as a species (success being measured in number of organisms, access to food and shelter, safety from predators, etc) by better understanding ...
by Emower
Fri Aug 23, 2019 3:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Truth and Evolution
Replies: 8
Views: 130

Re: Truth and Evolution

Not to "one up" you, because you did an excellent job with this, but I'm not sure "duped" is the correct word for how a lot of us set as our standard belief system that of Mormonism or Christianity in general. For a lot of us, we heard about the church when we were young and we heard it from those ...
by Emower
Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Truth and Evolution
Replies: 8
Views: 130

Truth and Evolution

I read this article the other day: https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/does-reality-exist This delved into some really esoteric stuff, but I really love thinking out of my mormon box these days. TL;DR Your brain might be protecting you from reality by altering how you experience it. Which then b...
by Emower
Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:59 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Shared The Myth of the Unrighteous Parent with DW
Replies: 11
Views: 283

Re: Shared The Myth of the Unrighteous Parent with DW

Boy this is hard. I am sorry for the hurt that continues to surface. All of us are. I am not sure if the peace I feel is lasting, or a masking of the chasm between us. I hope its the former. I just read the article and I agree with it.I think it does bring up an interesting point, from a TBM perspec...
by Emower
Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Article: "Losing my religion at christian camp"
Replies: 1
Views: 102

Article: "Losing my religion at christian camp"

https://longreads.com/2019/08/08/losing-my-religion-at-christian-camp/ I read the article the other day, and it really affected me. I dont completely know why. I suppose because it parallels how I feel currently. I have been able and fortunate enough to remove most of the things that bother me abou...
by Emower
Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:07 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Whats good on netflix?
Replies: 11
Views: 160

Re: Whats good on netflix?

"Schitts Creek." It is totally beyond the pale of my experience, and shouldn't feel so relatable, but it does nonetheless. Easily one of the funnier comedies I have seen since "The Office".
by Emower
Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:29 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Stock Market, economy, and recession?
Replies: 12
Views: 309

Re: Stock Market, economy, and recession?

What does everyone think about the economy and chances of a downturn or recession? I believe the rich and powerful are manipulating market forces before the 2020 election. The 10+ year bull run can’t last forever! I really don't like conspiracy theories, but this is one that I would tend to believe...
by Emower
Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:14 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Stories - Donna Showalter
Replies: 34
Views: 902

Re: Mormon Stories - Donna Showalter

I just finished this one today. I don't listen to mormon podcasts much anymore, but I was feeling down this weekend and just needed to know there were others out there. The last episode really captured some of the feelings I have about moving on. Generally speaking, it reminded me of what it was li...
by Emower
Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New youth program being defined
Replies: 25
Views: 879

Re: New youth program being defined

All the wards I have been unwillingly associated with since my break have tried to hook me with helping in the YM program. Who wouldn't want to do cool stuff and help out the boys? I said "this guy doesn't." After a few splutters they have left me alone.
by Emower
Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Burned over district & Joseph's search for truth
Replies: 16
Views: 689

Re: Burned over district & Joseph's search for truth

This new narrative does look like a strong case for the church …... until …... you follow the ….. footnotes. Then you realize the level of deception and conflation conducted by the church's history department and the apologists. The church needs to stop adding footnotes and shooting themselves in t...
by Emower
Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The effects of Africa, Asia and South America
Replies: 16
Views: 679

Re: The effects of Africa, Asia and South America

I think the church is trying to cope with this in a few ways. A few months ago I asked my friends in the bishopric what would be the topic of an upcoming fifth Sunday lesson. They said that they had instructions from church headquarters on two major topics: Testimonies and Family Finances. There ar...
by Emower
Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM going the direction of some other online groups?
Replies: 50
Views: 1855

Re: Is NOM going the direction of some other online groups?

I went inactive on the board a while ago, got my head right, and the other day decided to try and come back and post a little bit more, just in time for the ed123 episode. That was fun. I have some thoughts and discussions I would like to have, and everytime I sit down to do it I just think, "what's...
by Emower
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Thought Experiment 1: Correct Faithful Worldview/Paradigm for BOA
Replies: 43
Views: 1268

Re: Thought Experiment 1: Correct Faithful Worldview/Paradigm for BOA

Its the tone man, the tone. I agree, people did not engage with the subject matter. I didnt, simply because I did not want to read the wall of text, spend an hour trying to understand the thought process, and then realize that it is something I didnt want to engage in. I still dont. So I didnt comme...
by Emower
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: To tell in-laws or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 418

Re: To tell in-laws or not?

So, my suggestion to MerryMiss is not to explain, but also not to pretend. You slowly drop the Mormon markers of garments and full activity. But unless asked in a sincere way, you also don’t explain. You just be you and let them accept you for you or not. You may have to draw a line at them preachi...
by Emower
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: To tell in-laws or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 418

Re: To tell in-laws or not?

Red Ryder wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:09 pm

Like your suddenly joining a frontier sex cult in the spring of 2020!
Then you will be a member of 2 frontier sex cults! Now that's something to tell the grandkids... Although neither one is much fun.
by Emower
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: To tell in-laws or not?
Replies: 16
Views: 418

Re: To tell in-laws or not?

Oh jeez, I'm sorry you have to even go through this. I think on principle, its unfair to ask anyone other than yourself to hide anything, especially for the benefit of someone else. Secrets are dumb, dont ask people to keep them. Some might be necessary, this one is not. But I realize that relations...
by Emower
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Paradox or Problem
Replies: 12
Views: 517

Re: Paradox or Problem

She is a relationship and sex therapist and has people ask her how to fix the problems in their marriage which are caused by this paradox. But she suggests that we should focus on managing the paradox rather than fix the problem. More a paradox that we manage and less a problem that we solve. I thi...
by Emower
Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM and RMN's telling of whoppers
Replies: 11
Views: 602

Re: RFM and RMN's telling of whoppers

I think it is human nature to embellish stories. I catch myself doing it. I however don’t use my stories to control or manipulate people. I just like to brag sometimes. +2 I think it's a mix of embellishing for the Lord and some outright lying for the Lord. Either way, I'm sure it becomes pretty fl...
by Emower
Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Back from SLC
Replies: 4
Views: 372

Re: Back from SLC

Shocked to see a full color panel on the seer stone at the history museum. Then saddened to hear my niece eagerly explain to me that she learned in seminary that Joseph was given the seer stone to use for translation only to have it taken from him every time he wanted to use it for gain. But it cle...
by Emower
Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 'What do you believe?'
Replies: 15
Views: 627

Re: 'What do you believe?'

Great comments. I can't add to RR and Alas, so I will just relate where I am at with beliefs. I don't know what I believe in either. And I am happy with that quite frankly. I once read a post years ago on wheat and tares about taking pleasure in the unknown. And I have really gotten there. I don't k...