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by Emower
Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Doing Good
Replies: 10
Views: 7360

Re: Doing Good

I have become quite busy with work which as it happens lines up pretty well with my hobbies. I have also gotten pretty involved in a professional society where I run a week long camp and we teach kids about range land management. It takes quite a bit of time but its pretty rewarding.
by Emower
Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Milestones
Replies: 7
Views: 6537

Re: Mormon Milestones

This month was my oldest son's 12th birthday. I wondered if it would be bittersweet for me, and it was not. I have moved on I guess. He also does not seem to be interested in ordination, at least that he has discussed with me.
by Emower
Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:00 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: How do you get your spouse to see that people can still be good after leaving the church?
Replies: 38
Views: 46097

Re: How do you get your spouse to see that people can still be good after leaving the church?

I know of many good people, including me. If you want to show your wife that there are good people who have left the church, show her yourself. That's the most important person that she and your children will see every day. Don't lie about stuff. If you are embarrassed about drinking coffee, hold of...
by Emower
Sun Jul 30, 2023 10:29 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is Mormonism Your Motherland?
Replies: 13
Views: 6743

Re: Is Mormonism Your Motherland?

You know, it is not my “motherland” at all. My earliest memory of church is being lost and crying, standing in an hallway as people pushed past me after my family just moved wards. When the lady who found me asked what class I went to, I didn’t know, then she asked how old I was, I held up three fi...
by Emower
Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:07 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
Replies: 54
Views: 15761

Re: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?

I haven't been posting as much lately, but I still lurk and appreciate the posts and read through most of them. Posting has slowed some recently and we haven't had many new converts, but this is still the place to find thoughtful posts and discussions. I post less because I'm in a better place so I...
by Emower
Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The Black Hole
Replies: 4
Views: 6500

Re: The Black Hole

Ugh. That's something I really didn't enjoy when I was in, now that I'm out it's really unappealing. I feel like it's a general Christian thing though, and even worse with evangelicals. All you have to do is comment on the sunset and their talking about Jesus' love being borne on its rays with their...
by Emower
Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: After 10+ years inactive, I decided to return for good
Replies: 27
Views: 12976

Re: After 10+ years inactive, I decided to return for good

I think Just This Guy's response is a very valid one. When I was exiting I spent many hours on my knees trying to get an answer. I eventually came to the conclusion that if I took life seriously God would not fault me for following my truth. At least the kind of God most would want to believe in wou...
by Emower
Sat Jul 15, 2023 10:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
Replies: 54
Views: 15761

Re: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?

I have picked up some new reading material that I intend to make my way through slowly by Joseph Campbell. Curiously Campbell studied at Dartmouth College joining impressive alum's such as Hyrum Smith! I have started to read his "Myths to live by" book. It has been thought provoking so far. My thoug...
by Emower
Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?
Replies: 54
Views: 15761

Re: Slowly fading away? The future of NOM?

The other reason is similar in that they do a lot of attacks against the apologists. I don’t give a s*** what the apologists are saying, so why would I be interested in arguments against them. I am just too far out of the church to care about apologists for it. They are dead wrong, so why argue wit...
by Emower
Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: child's baptism -- help
Replies: 15
Views: 1839

Re: child's baptism -- help

My kids just didn't get baptized. They still are not. I explained to my DW and extended family that I would feel un-authentic doing it despite my unbelief. I explained that I also would be uncomfortable with someone else doing it, and if someone else did I would be having a very in depth detailed di...
by Emower
Fri May 06, 2022 7:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New church membership decline and GC moves to Africa?
Replies: 10
Views: 1993

Re: New church membership decline and GC moves to Africa?

We belong to an ATVing club and every month there are 4 or 5 new families that have just moved in from California and my husband says it is the same at church, every week, mostly retired couples bragging about “escaping from hellifornia.” They are quickly bringing all of California’s over populatio...
by Emower
Thu May 05, 2022 6:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Unbundled Corruption and the LDS Church
Replies: 11
Views: 2420

Re: Unbundled Corruption and the LDS Church

One last thought. Throw out the word theft and replace with wealth transfer. That’s how I see it happen. I certainly get that and agree. But, at that point, it becomes pretty much similar to how merica' operates and not especially unique to Mormonism. I realize that the point of the OP was not how ...
by Emower
Wed May 04, 2022 5:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Unbundled Corruption and the LDS Church
Replies: 11
Views: 2420

Re: Unbundled Corruption and the LDS Church

I recently made a career switch out of a job that felt quite important in it's arena. It allowed me to hobnob a little bit with politicians, it was smack in the middle of some contentious social and economic policy arenas, and was considered one of the level and knowledgeable heads in the room. I se...
by Emower
Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Battleground Africa
Replies: 20
Views: 4770

Re: Battleground Africa

As a missionary in Norway I had plenty of experience teaching African refugees. I have no doubt that the church views Africa as a goldmine of converts because they are remarkably receptive to the message. They seem to be a fairly superstitious people and believing in angels delivering golden plates ...
by Emower
Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:42 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prayer Circles
Replies: 16
Views: 4498

Re: Prayer Circles

Prayer circles was the cult cherry on top that I had to swallow when I went through for the first time. I went into the endowment room freaked out after my initiatory ordeal where I was molested by several old men. Then we watched a movie. "Alright, this isnt so bad" thought I. After the robing I lo...
by Emower
Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:47 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Is it ever Enough?
Replies: 5
Views: 15056

Re: Is it ever Enough?

You might have been on the tail end of posting when I got involved here, but I will say that some of your posts were helpful. So thanks for being around. I have been at real peace with life for the last 3-4 years. The phoenix NOMs got me through a lot, and now I am enjoying the fruits of their labor...
by Emower
Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Seven Months Down. 53 To Go.
Replies: 26
Views: 7029

Re: Seven Months Down. 53 To Go.

I've been putting this off. The last episode detailing the ordeals of being a non-believing bishop was in early September. Our bishopric hit the 6 month mark in mid October, and here we are now in December. So I guess I've really got 7 1/2 months down. That's so much easier! /s Now that you have yo...
by Emower
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How do those of you in mixed faith marriages raise your kids?
Replies: 14
Views: 3847

Re: How do those of you in mixed faith marriages raise your kids?

I'm pretty much in your same boat as far as kids go. I haven't really told my kids much, but they know something is up because I don't go and I drink coffee. My daughter came up to me at one point and asked if I was going to go to hell because I drank coffee. But my wife takes them to church and the...
by Emower
Thu Apr 01, 2021 7:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 156
Views: 44561

Re: Forced Turning Point

Hi Graey, I was also clued in by a cowboy wearing red chaps. I just wanted to come and congratulate you, and to say I think you should decline this. Is it an opportunity to make a difference in peoples lives? Maybe. It is also something that will detract from your quality of life significantly. It s...
by Emower
Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Testimony Gathering Sister
Replies: 12
Views: 4843

Re: Testimony Gathering Sister

My brother blessed a baby when I happened to be in town for a temple wedding that I also was not going to be a part of in the traditional sense. This baby blessing was going to be all my brothers and dad. He asked me beforehand if I would like to participate. I said that I did not know how anyone el...