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by fetchface
Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The core of my mormon trauma
Replies: 11
Views: 301

Re: The core of my mormon trauma

How many times have I been told that people want me at church? I like to call them on it and tell them, no, they don't want me at church. They want someone who wears my skin but who in fact is a completely different person than I am. I almost want to show up one day and be myself, raise my hand and ...
by fetchface
Thu Jan 09, 2020 3:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?
Replies: 17
Views: 493

Re: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?

If you look at the history of cult leaders, you will notice that many of them are extremely reckless and take big risks and end up getting killed in the end. It seems to be that this is a common personality trait of cult leaders. Some even purposely organize a mass suicide with themselves included. ...
by fetchface
Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mormonism's Money is in the hotseat
Replies: 22
Views: 1057

Re: Mormonism's Money is in the hotseat

The president of the church has the power to dispose of any church property in any way he sees fit, so he can use it for any purpose he wants to, including gifting it to himself. At least, that's how the articles of incorporation read to me. Of course, gifting himself $100B would mean paying a lot o...
by fetchface
Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:44 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Casual dress in church ????????
Replies: 29
Views: 1016

Re: Casual dress in church ????????

I specifically wear jeans to screw with the "unwritten order of things." Plus, I just feel good in my casual clothes. I have spent a lot of time finding jeans that fit me really well. I wear long-sleeved colored collared shirts (untucked). I've probably got the most expensive shoes in the whole chap...
by fetchface
Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mission rules are now just suggestions.
Replies: 28
Views: 1276

Re: Mission rules are now just suggestions.

Now, instead of needing to be 100% obedient to the rules to have the spirit, missionaries will need to be 100% obedient to the principles to have the spirit. I'm skeptical that this will represent any change at all. I think that obedience will still be highly emphasized on missions and that missiona...
by fetchface
Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: Support
Topic: I'm going to Hell !
Replies: 18
Views: 814

Re: I'm going to Hell !

Imagine yourself in the Celestial Kingdom. You show up at the party and up walks Russell M. Nelson and starts talking your ear off. You worm your way out of the conversation because, let's be honest, the guy has nothing interesting to say whatsoever, and next thing you know you are cornered by Dalli...
by fetchface
Mon Oct 21, 2019 1:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Visiting in laws on a Europe senior mission... such a frustrating trip.
Replies: 8
Views: 426

Re: Visiting in laws on a Europe senior mission... such a frustrating trip.

That sounds like the worst vacation ever. Make the most of it, I guess. I went to NYC on a vacation with my wife and she wanted to go to the Manhattan temple while she was there, so I just strolled in Central Park for a couple of hours. I really enjoyed that quiet exploration time. If you are "unwor...
by fetchface
Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters
Replies: 23
Views: 946

Re: The Holy Ghost vs. active shooters

Like most things, gun carrying in the general population is a mixed bag. If I'm ever in a situation where I'm sitting in church and somebody walks in armed to the teeth and starts shooting the place up, I'd love it if there were an army of off-duty cops sitting there with guns ready to fight back. A...
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2712

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

described in the article . I do have to say, though, that the article was terrible. It was written from a tone of Christian fear-mongering about transgender people, which I hate with a passion. The author can't even refer to the kids as transgender, it's "children who say they are transgender." It ...
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New TR question
Replies: 47
Views: 1889

Re: New TR question

2bizE wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:51 pm
I believe you. I thought Christianity was trying to move away from the law of Moses??
You kiddin'? We're talking about a God who sent an angel to threaten to kill Joseph Smith if he didn't marry dozens of women. The Mormon God is the Old Testament Jehovah, not the nice guy Jesus.
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:01 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2712

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

I agree with what those above have written but that wasn't the way you described your daughter's experience in California. It was definitely ambiguous. It wasn't addressing the problem as it was described in the article . I read very well what you wrote. That's why I asked you for clarification. We...
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2712

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Again, open cubicles are inadequate in many situations, and doors and walls that go from ceiling to floor solve the issues. Yes, it was a common area for hazing/bullying of kids when I was young. I'm sure that hasn't changed. People (of all ages and gender identities) deserve a place that is nomina...
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New TR question
Replies: 47
Views: 1889

Re: New TR question

Emower wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:30 pm
He was probably back taking a nap with the scriptures open.
No way, scripture reading is exciting! It would never put anyone to sleep! :lol:
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2712

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Ahhhh.... So your girls were changing their pads WHILE men were in the same room with them but the girls were in a stall. Is that what you're saying? I think I've been pretty clear so far. Have you been reading what I have been saying? If you go back and read what I have been saying, I'm saying: 1....
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2712

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

Just sayin'..... https://www.christian.org.uk/news/girls-skip-school-rather-than-use-gender-neutral-toilets/ Saying what? In August we took a camping trip to South Carlsbad State Beach. All of the bathrooms were single toilet unisex with total privacy and locking door with door knob. A couple of my...
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Staying Positive While Being a Non-Believer
Replies: 10
Views: 597

Re: Staying Positive While Being a Non-Believer

For me, ambivalence toward the church didn't really kick in until I found a hobby that included a social aspect to it. Now I actually look forward to Saturday morning the way the church teaches that you are supposed to look forward to Sunday, but I go work out with some friends in an Olympic Weightl...
by fetchface
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New TR question
Replies: 47
Views: 1889

Re: New TR question

How about the new question on keeping the Sabbath Day holy at home and at church. What does that mean to keep it holy at church? Would ordering a pizza to be delivered to the EQ meeting on Sunday afternoon and watching the football game on your phone be considered not keeping it holy at church? I t...
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2712

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

I have this really weird notion that stalls could be their own private unisex bathroom and then people of all genders could come out into a larger common area and wash their own hands in the presence of people who may or may not be of their same gender. I know, I'm a weirdo.
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way
Replies: 91
Views: 2712

Re: Elder Oaks Defines "Gender" for Us - In His Usual Bigoted Way

It would be added expense (it always is :roll: ) but maybe the best solution here is a dedicated gender neutral bathroom as a good compromise. Then men who want privacy can go to the designated mens' bathroom. Women can go to the womens'. And folks who could care less one way or the other can go to...
by fetchface
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:06 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Questions about YM changes
Replies: 14
Views: 680

Re: Questions about YM changes

As much as I loved the church, being in leadership and having that comforting feeling that I was on the Lord's errand, there was always part of me that felt like a hamster on the wheel. My time as Bishop was awful, to be honest, with an abusive SP and a never-ending list of responsibilities that co...