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OH good grief. As though your ordinances and covenants are somehow equivalent to a passport... I really really do not like this man. He is so self-righteous, pretentious. - a really big number just for being Bednar. I'll vent here because I don't know if DW will entertain a discussion on this point ...

I haven't been watching continuously, only catching bits here and there. -50 to Oaks for making "covenant path" a creation of Rusty through the use of misleading language. According to one of our group who researched it, it was a woman who coined the term. Can't have that.

I think I'll break with the group on this this one and give him 10. At least his talk has some real life relevance given all the ways the Internet has made gambling available.

MoPag wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:53 am He just told a story about his grandparents trying too hard to travel to hear an apostle speak that one of their kids ended up dying from exposure. This is so dark and f-cked up....

Will they ever stop with these stories? -50

MoPag wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:53 am He just told a story about his grandparents trying too hard to travel to hear an apostle speak that one of their kids ended up dying from exposure. This is so dark and f-cked up....

Will they ever stop with these stories? -50

Turned into the old testimonies are magical talk.

-100. The last thing my marriage needs is the toxicity of telling my wife we'll be separated in the next life. He didn't have to go there, but he did.

Kiudos to Mopag for her service.

Sorry I wasn't following in real time. I was listening while working in the yard.

I don't know who it was that told us prophets forsee the future and then gave multiple contemporary examples. Oh, wait, he didn't give any. He quoted Scripture instead How reassuring.

-60 to him.

nibbler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 04, 2026 10:28 am Pay your tithing even when your business is losing money.

-200 billion

Edit: I feel like Jesus owes the business owner money in that scenario.

Good choice of number to score him.

Poster child for failure to raise kids who stay Mormon. At least it seemed like failure once upon a time. I kept up appearances until my youngest turned 18 because I didn't want to be blamed if they left. There were times, however, when I had to make it absolutely clear that in a conflict between ...

Resisting the temptation to run with a porn tangent. . .

I was fortunate to see Michaelangelo's David in Florence as a teenager, with a mixed group of other teenagers from across the US. I did not observe any reactions from our group to the statue being nude. It was more like moments of wonder and awe at the genius that produced such a thing. A true ...

Why is so much of what we call "revelation" indistinguishable from the personal biases of the revelators?

Does he want us to live off the grid? What the hell? Will you please expound on that? We should all live on a farm dontcha know. It was all good then. The boys might have fallen in love with a sheep or two, but at least they weren't trying to marry other boys. That is not too surprising for a ...

græy wrote: ↑Sun Oct 05, 2025 1:23 pm MoPag, you're a saint for creating these threads to help preserve our sanity.

Agreed. All hail Saint MoPag!

- 25 for the self judgment nonsense. ETA: The premise of the self judgement model is that somehow, at the time of judgment what had previously been hidden behind mountains of contrary evidence will suddenly become irrefutable truth. Add to that the equally silly notion that those who followed the ...

Treatment of LGBT folks... One recent change that has been very significant for me is the transgender bathroom policy. The church has told me that my family is not welcome in their buildings. No amount of flowery talk about how much they love and welcome their LGBT members will compensate for the ...

græy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 10:37 am Just wanted to say hi, everyone! I hope you all have a great day despite the blah.

Great to "see" you, bishop. Hope your life is going well.

MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 10:29 am Why are they still sucking up to Rusty? Shouldn't they focus on sucking up to Oaks? He's next in line.

Anderson did. Like he understood internal politics while being clueless about external (or just aligned with evil, not sure which).