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by Dravin
Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pendelum shifts away from Mormon
Replies: 26
Views: 511

Re: Pendelum shifts away from Mormon

Someone just pointed this out on r/exmormon and I thought I'd share it here: The term "Mormonism" is inaccurate and should not be used. When describing the combination of doctrine, culture and lifestyle unique to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the term "the restored gospel of Jesus...
by Dravin
Thu Aug 16, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Pendelum shifts away from Mormon
Replies: 26
Views: 511

Pendelum shifts away from Mormon

Looks like after having invested all that time and money into the "I'm a Mormon" campaign Jesus has decided he doesn't like it: https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/style-guide I wonder if we're going to be seeing a rush of Wikipedia edits as the faithful (and possibly paid) rush forth to try and enforce ...
by Dravin
Wed Aug 15, 2018 3:02 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "If you can't feel the spirit you are the problem..."
Replies: 9
Views: 332

Re: "If you can't feel the spirit you are the problem..."

To be fair that fits the overall pattern of, "Have an issue with X? The problem is you and never the church." So you gotta give them props for consistency.
by Dravin
Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Birds and the bees
Replies: 11
Views: 300

Re: Birds and the bees

What I’m trying to get at is how do you think kids should be raised in approaching sex? I’d love to get feedback on how people think about it from a spiritual/theological stance. To what extent should I shield my kids from premarital sex? Is it harmful/okay to have a few or many sexual partners bef...
by Dravin
Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 186
Views: 14786

Re: What are you drinking right now?

The caramel was nice, but the coffee part tasted like someone burnt something in a pan and then scraped the bottom of the pan and put it in the drink. Starbucks tends to heavily roast their beans, which tends to result in more roasted flavors compared to a roast done by someone else. They probably ...
by Dravin
Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:36 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Advice Needed for Family Turmoil
Replies: 11
Views: 301

Re: Advice Needed for Family Turmoil

I'd appreciate any advice. I think the Church is toxic to our family and it is making all of our lives miserable, but DW loves the Church so much. Perhaps more than she loves us. I've tried to talk her into seeing a counselor, but so far, she has been unwilling. We have seen counselors before (toge...
by Dravin
Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:23 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Tips for a stalemate with TBM in-laws
Replies: 17
Views: 540

Re: Tips for a stalemate with TBM in-laws

It seems like you found a good balance point from how you present it. It isn't unfair of them to want to continue doing FHE how they've been doing it before you changed religious beliefs and it isn't unfair of you to want to not have your kids subjected to religious lessons (particularly if they are...
by Dravin
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Missionaries dropped by
Replies: 7
Views: 357

Re: Missionaries dropped by

Thoughtful wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:15 pm
She says she is worried about me, and they (missionaries) are too. Said with wide eyes and a little tear in one corner.
A fun response is to just mirror the look and share you are worried about them too. The look of confusion can be worth the price of admission.
by Dravin
Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:58 pm
Forum: Church Lessons
Topic: #6 I Will Tell You ........By The Holy Ghost
Replies: 22
Views: 2247

Re: #6 I Will Tell You ........By The Holy Ghost

I'm gonna quote myself from Reddit (in response to someone asking exmos to share their experience with praying and thinking God told you it was true): I wasn't a convert, but when I sat down to get my own testimony by reading and praying there was a lot of pressure on the line. Each and every time I...
by Dravin
Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Off-day thoughts on forgiveness
Replies: 13
Views: 258

Re: Off-day thoughts on forgiveness

Ah, see, it's a sin to not forgive. It's a greater sin to not forgive when your offender claims to repent. I found a bunch of bullshit like that while reading. In one memorable piece on lds.org, the writer felt guilty and ashamed for not having forgiven her abusive father. Once I understood what us...
by Dravin
Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:08 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi from the Midwest
Replies: 12
Views: 344

Re: Hi from the Midwest

Welcome from someone else in the Midwest. :)
by Dravin
Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Why don't you want to believe?"
Replies: 26
Views: 727

Re: "Why don't you want to believe?"

But it's not me dictating your life path, it's God . God is welcome to tell me himself if he thinks I should be living a certain way. If he's incapable of telling me himself he's so weak I'm no sure why I should concern myself with what he thinks, and if he doesn't care to tell me himself he must n...
by Dravin
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Why don't you want to believe?"
Replies: 26
Views: 727

Re: "Why don't you want to believe?"

I may have wanted to believe at first, but I think since being out I have noticed there is enough toxicity in the current and past doctrine that I no longer want to believe. Indeed. It is why I risk ruptured internal organs from holding back howling laughter whenever I hear a Mormon try and argue, ...
by Dravin
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Why don't you want to believe?"
Replies: 26
Views: 727

Re: "Why don't you want to believe?"

The interesting thing is when someone insists my belief is about wanting or simply a matter of choice the first thing that comes to mind is to ask them, "If simply wanting or choosing meant I could and do believe something why of everything I could choose to believe would I choose Mormonism?" It is ...
by Dravin
Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:27 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Breasts in the News
Replies: 42
Views: 1115

Re: Breasts in the News

The one thing that I do know is that there's nothing in the recommend questions about breast feeding, which means the SP is inventing his own rules. It is a little crazy, a SP can demand anything based on a whim and if you don't comply or complain it isn't in the temple recommend questions? Well th...
by Dravin
Thu Jul 26, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Breasts in the News
Replies: 42
Views: 1115

Re: Breasts in the News

she claims the stake president told her husband that he had to control his wife Because a women making a conscious decision is like a fussy toddler that needs an adult to take control of the situation. Don't let this mislead you or anything though, women are totally seen as equal to men in Mormondo...
by Dravin
Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:07 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 186
Views: 14786

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Some homemade cold brew coffee, it is a nice change from the hot stuff during these warm summer months.
by Dravin
Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: LDS version of punishment
Replies: 9
Views: 315

Re: LDS version of punishment

What punishment are you picturing that would be appropriate?
by Dravin
Fri Jul 20, 2018 3:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church seeks MTC case to be dismissed
Replies: 16
Views: 614

Re: Church seeks MTC case to be dismissed

Because don't we all know the famous JST version of Matthew 5:40 -
And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, motion that his demand for your coat is expired.
by Dravin
Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Prosperity Gospel Condemned by Vatican
Replies: 21
Views: 740

Re: Prosperity Gospel Condemned by Vatican

The poor, the homeless, the unemployed, etc., can be left to their own devices because, after all, aren't they merely reaping the bitter fruits of wickedness or impiousness The interesting thing is Mosiah 4 specifically decries thinking 'that poor person brought it upon themselves, let them suck it...