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by oliblish
Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sunday Logistics
Replies: 27
Views: 851

Re: Sunday Logistics

2 hour church has made me grumpier than 3 hour church. In the past- I could leave after sacrament and get my weekly grocery shopping done and a starbucks or something and make it back to the parking lot just in time for the end of 3rd hour. Now there is not enough time to fit in even a quick errand...
by oliblish
Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Gospel Topics Essay - BOM Geography
Replies: 45
Views: 1143

Re: New Gospel Topics Essay - BOM Geography

There is one on Thomas B. Marsh. The milk stripping story has been relegated to a footnote. Now they are throwing current Q15 members and their recent conference talks under the bus. https://www.lds.org/study/history/topics/thomas-b-marsh?lang=eng Yet, after moving to Far West, Missouri, in 1838, Ma...
by oliblish
Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Gospel Topics Essay - BOM Geography
Replies: 45
Views: 1143

Re: New Gospel Topics Essay - BOM Geography

There seems to be a bunch of new essays creeping up. No dates, no announcements. Don't spread the word, we wouldn't want people to actually discuss these things! Edit to add headings to the links. Formatting cut off the part that actually showed what they are about... Masonry: https://www.lds.org/s...
by oliblish
Mon Jan 28, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Yet another LDS fireside on doubts and faith crisis on 2/17 - This is really incredible to watch in real time
Replies: 40
Views: 1467

Re: Yet another LDS fireside on doubts and faith crisis on 2/17 - This is really incredible to watch in real time

I wonder what it costs to rent out these stadiums. They just did this in Seattle too. I attended a conference at the University of Washington years ago, where we woke up every morning to the repeated chant of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo coming from the stadium. It was rather en-chant-ing. Hearing those wor...
by oliblish
Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM 1st ward assignments
Replies: 28
Views: 697

Re: NOM 1st ward assignments

Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:15 am
Brent wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:15 pm
I volunteer for "Ward Whisky Disposal Specialist".
I will pay 10% of my beer to whomever comes to clean out my garage.
I think you have this reversed. Whoever comes to clean needs to pay YOU 10%.
by oliblish
Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: LDS fireside this Sunday on "Navigating Doubts"
Replies: 57
Views: 1937

Re: LDS fireside this Sunday on "Navigating Doubts"

https://janariess.religionnews.com/2019/01/15/how-mormons-handle-doubt-blame-the-victim/ Great article. This article has now hit the SL Tribune. With this kind of coverage there is no doubt that the Q15 will be discussing this in their meetings. Commentary: Latter-day Saint apostle Dale G. Renlund ...
by oliblish
Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 7% decrease in Mexico's congregations
Replies: 20
Views: 683

Re: 7% decrease in Mexico's congregations

According to fuller consideration.com, there was an increase of only 22 units worldwide for 2018. I am waiting for the official numbers but that is the lowest number in many decades if accurate. I believe the Mexico situation had a lot to do with this. 2017 saw an increase of 202. Sent from my iPhon...
by oliblish
Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
Replies: 97
Views: 3642

Re: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?

This is being shared elsewhere: So even with the temple being "spared no expense", they cheap out and go to extremes to minimize the cost to film the new movie. Wow! To be fair, the whole 'return and report' section was really annoying and anti-dramatic. I would be glad to see that gone if I ever a...
by oliblish
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 2nd Commandment
Replies: 19
Views: 571

Re: 2nd Commandment

The last thing Joseph said after he was shot was "Oh Lord! my God!". No one ever seems to be bothered by that.

I think if I said that after hitting my thumb with a hammer it would turn a few heads here in Utah County.
by oliblish
Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Tips on wearing garments with your bra.
Replies: 20
Views: 832

Re: Tips on wearing garments with your bra.

This kind of reminds me of a thread I came across years ago where LDS people were discussing which sex positions are acceptable unto the Lord. Neither the church nor the scriptures have anything to say about this but some people seemed to know exactly what God wants. The final consensus was that yo...
by oliblish
Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Nelson's Christmas devotional talk was disgusting
Replies: 13
Views: 780

Re: Nelson's Christmas devotional talk was disgusting

The thing that disgusted me most was he gave this nice talk about being like Jesus, then when it came to defining how to be like Jesus, it wasn’t feed the hungry, help the poor, or cloth the naked. No, it was make covenants n the temple. Sorry, but Jesus didn’t ever make those covenants in the temp...
by oliblish
Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Save My Soul, brother TBM
Replies: 21
Views: 601

Re: Save My Soul, brother TBM

I think this quote from the Polygamy essay on lds.org sheds some light on this: “I made a greater sacrifice than to give my life,” said Zina Huntington Jacobs, “for I never anticipated again to be looked upon as an honorable woman.” Why would Zina think she would not be looked upon as an honorable w...
by oliblish
Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Resign or Get Ex’d
Replies: 21
Views: 653

Re: Resign or Get Ex’d

Bill Reel's court was last night. He did an IOT interview this morning, and said that he went through a list of problems in the church, and saw more than one High Councilman's shelf start to crack. So you could go to the court, and try to bring several out with you! Someone really messed up by allo...
by oliblish
Thu Nov 15, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temple Clothes
Replies: 35
Views: 1252

Re: Temple Clothes

MoPag wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:18 pm
Holding your hand in a cupping shape for water
I always heard this was to catch your guts that rush out as you disembowel yourself during the execution of the penalty.
by oliblish
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If you think the Church has been fully restored...
Replies: 16
Views: 967

Re: If you think the Church has been fully restored...

If the recent changes are a restoration from the primitive church that would mean: Home teachers were called ministers in the early church. There was a two hour block back in Christ's time. Some of the changes actually are more like the primitive church: They didn't use the name Mormon or LDS back i...
by oliblish
Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: No More Pageants
Replies: 23
Views: 1167

Re: No More Pageants

Nothing causes the wackiness of it all to slap you in the face like seeing it acted out by live actors. Besides, to fit the current apologetics they would need two Cumorah pageants. ;) Here is a photo from the Manti Pageant: https://photos.thechurchnews.com/file/5e63aa0031/dnews/galleryImageLarge/a...
by oliblish
Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:58 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Questions to get TBMs thinking
Replies: 43
Views: 2482

Re: Questions to get TBMs thinking

I have a couple of other questions to add to this: Is there anything that Christ's atonement can't cover? Can it make up for the fact that someone didn't get baptized? Can it forgive someone for not being married in the temple? If the atonement has limitations is it truly infinite? Why is Satan so p...
by oliblish
Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What would you expect if the church was true?
Replies: 26
Views: 915

Re: What would you expect if the church was true?

This reminded me of a Mormon Expression podcast of several years back. I still like to listen to these once in a while. Episode 281: Top 10 Things You Would Expect To See If The Church Were Actually True http://johnlarsen.org/podcast/Archive/MormonExpression281.mp3 Most of the old episodes are avail...
by oliblish
Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Melonakos Interview with John Dehlin
Replies: 40
Views: 1701

Re: Melonakos Interview with John Dehlin

They actually tried to get away with printing three dollar bills:

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by oliblish
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Oaks Saturday morning talk.
Replies: 30
Views: 1780

Re: Oaks Saturday morning talk.

Whey he came on the TV and I heard something about PoF, I immediately left the room to avoid saying something that would offend my TBM wife and in-laws.