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- Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:51 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Impermanent Ward Relationships are Still Real
- Replies: 13
- Views: 1577
Re: Impermanent Ward Relationships are Still Real
I agree with this idea. Not every relationship is or needs to be "permanent" (as if anything is permanent anyway). I've had meaningful interactions with people at church and at work who I'll likely never talk to again. One interesting thing I've noticed is how modern social media can kind of zombify...
- Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:31 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Progressive mormonism
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1605
Re: Progressive mormonism
It used to bother me a little when people would say that being an active NOM/progressive type was only a temporary stop on the way out. That might have even motivated me to stay active longer. And while I find it hard to imagine a point at which I don't identify as a "Mormon" in some way, I also fin...
- Fri Nov 25, 2022 3:17 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Watch Under the Banner of Heaven on Hulu for $1.99/m
- Replies: 1
- Views: 609
Re: Watch Under the Banner of Heaven on Hulu for $1.99/m
If only if were their plan without ads. I haven't watched anything with commercial interruptions since high school, and I don't think I could do it now.
- Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:34 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: The Brighamite God.
- Replies: 6
- Views: 974
Re: The Brighamite God.
This makes me think of the timeless attempts to square God in the Old Testament with Jesus in the New Testament. The OT version of God is often petulant and vicious. Some of that spills over into Mormonism, of course, like the time that Jesus took credit for destroying all those cities in the Book o...
- Mon Nov 07, 2022 12:59 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Does belief equal stupidity?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 11511
Re: Does belief equal stupidity?
I would imagine that for many, fear is a motivator to hold on to beliefs and consciously avoid questioning, more than arrogance, narcissism, etc. I might assume that if I allow myself to entertain another view of the world, this could lead to the loss of strong connections to family or community, mo...
- Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:20 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: How do we know we’re not living in a simulation theory?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 829
Re: How do we know we’re not living in a simulation theory?
I've had thoughts similar to what you said about the creation being the same as a simulation. Just because the creation was physical, does that make it any more "real?" It makes no difference to us, since we wouldn't even know better. Also, some assume that we're more likely than not to be in a simu...
- Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:11 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Does belief equal stupidity?
- Replies: 31
- Views: 11511
Re: Does belief equal stupidity?
It seems common for someone who once believed in whatever religious propositions but does no longer to wonder how they ever believed those things in the first place. But, of course, they didn't suddenly became more intelligent than they were as a believer. I think that sometimes we don't even realiz...
- Sat Oct 08, 2022 12:17 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1325
Re: "Opportunity to receive personal revelation"
Yes, it's been said many times before but the system is set up so that God and the church (not limited to Mormonism) always "win" in any situation. If something good happens, it's a blessing. if something bad happens, it's a test or your fault. If you pray and get an answer that's wrong, you didn't ...
- Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:56 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ultra-quick summary of conference?
- Replies: 17
- Views: 2526
Re: Ultra-quick summary of conference?
As an indicator of just how far I've fallen, I didn't even follow the NOM conference threads this time around. In the past, I've at least read those, both because they are entertaining and because I wanted to be alerted of any particularly good or surprising talks and read those ones. In part so tha...
- Sat Oct 08, 2022 11:52 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"
- Replies: 19
- Views: 1938
Re: TBMs who turn to" Real Christianity"
Similar to what RubinHighlander said, when I stated discovering issues with Mormonism I immediately skipped past that and instead tried to find the deepest layer I could question. Christianity and then theism in general. I can entirely understand someone arriving at another set of religious beliefs ...
- Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:15 pm
- Forum: Staying Faithful
- Topic: Fantasy has its place
- Replies: 11
- Views: 20371
Re: Fantasy has its place
Yes, I thought Urth was kind of an unnecessary sequel, interesting in parts and maybe a little too out there in others. Maybe I would feel differently were I to read it again. (It's been many years.) I probably don't honor Wolfe's legacy as faithfully as I could, as I almost never eat Pringles. Jack...
- Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:26 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Outer Darkness
- Replies: 3
- Views: 638
Re: Outer Darkness
I once had an institute teacher who shared scriptures to support the view that everyone, probably even Satan, would eventually be given a chance to progress. I wonder if the LDS leaders who spoke against progression between "kingdoms" were doing so with the same attitude expressed in D&C 19, attempt...
- Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:11 am
- Forum: Staying Faithful
- Topic: Fantasy has its place
- Replies: 11
- Views: 20371
Re: Fantasy has its place
Severian The Book of the New Sun is my favorite science fiction work. I don't read nearly as much fantasy as I did as a kid but I still read a fair amount of SF. One thing I liked when I was in high school was Orson Scott Card's science fiction take on the Book of Mormon (the "Homecoming" series). ...
- Tue Sep 06, 2022 4:46 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: How do you stay sane and grounded?
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1665
Re: How do you stay sane and grounded?
Someone on NOM many years ago said something I found insightful. It was along the lines of learning to see Mormon culture as an anthropologist observing from the outside might. That's not always possible when being directly confronted by family or something like that, but maybe it is in some cases. ...
- Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:15 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Describing the "Mormon" God.
- Replies: 13
- Views: 1722
Re: Describing the "Mormon" God.
I've never been comfortable with the idea of calling myself "atheist" or even "agnostic," regardless of how far I might actually lean in those directions. But one term that resonated with me early in my faith transition and still does is "ignostic." Even within a particular movement, Mormonism or an...
- Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:27 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Naïve Realism
- Replies: 4
- Views: 883
Naïve Realism
I heard a discussion on the radio yesterday of the term "naïve realism." This is the belief that if another person had all the information you do, they'd see things the way you do. This struck me because I remember having a thought very similar to this as a missionary. If only the people I talked wi...
- Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:36 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Losing our Eternal Families
- Replies: 10
- Views: 1937
Re: Losing our Eternal Families
I remember thinking about Section 19 as a missionary and realizing that's why it made sense to say "the immortality and eternal life of man" but I didn't think to extend it to "eternal" families. That one may be more difficult to pin down language-wise because there's so much less mention of it in s...
- Tue Jul 26, 2022 8:46 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: "Joseph Smith and the Mormons" Graphic Novel
- Replies: 3
- Views: 949
Re: "Joseph Smith and the Mormons" Graphic Novel
Okay, the book arrived today and I read it in one sitting. It's something like 450 pages but it's a comic so that's possible. The first thing I'll say is that the hardcover edition is very attractive. I think it might be going for a sort of first edition Book of Mormon look, and it even has a built-...
- Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:04 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Nephew Temple Wedding
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1171
Re: Nephew Temple Wedding
It's not quite the same thing, but I've had a well-meaning family member recently suggest that I go to the temple again. And that made me think about how we talk about such things. Kind of funny how "visit the temple" sounds like just taking an evening to go somewhere, but really it's shorthand for ...
- Fri Jul 22, 2022 11:55 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: "Joseph Smith and the Mormons" Graphic Novel
- Replies: 3
- Views: 949
"Joseph Smith and the Mormons" Graphic Novel
This sounds like it could be a fun read. I probably should have waited to hear whether it's any good but I'm a big fan of (non-superhero) comics and I couldn't resist pre-ordering it. So I will find out next week whether it's any good. https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/07/17/graphic-novel-approac...