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by Ghost
Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Status updates?
Replies: 15
Views: 389

Re: Status updates?

My ward had been meeting in person and also broadcasting for a while, but a few weeks ago the virus was actually spread at church despite precautions and they moved back to video only. (I haven't been attending or watching, personally.) We have several ward members with the virus right now, includin...
by Ghost
Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is Christianity Dying?
Replies: 18
Views: 605

Re: Is Christianity Dying?

Oh sure, some of us feel dumb about entertaining the idea. It's convenient to allow others to look stupid as they explore this crazy idea that we are children of the stars. But if every believer suddenly disappeared then plenty atheists would take up the cause. I wonder if this might be one thing t...
by Ghost
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:45 am
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Philosopher AI's answer to: Who is God?
Replies: 4
Views: 1023

Re: Philosopher AI's answer to: Who is God?

To base your identity on the idea that another word/idea lacks definition, seems rather vague. That's fair, and I personally gravitate toward the "ignostic" label primarily in avoidance of two other terms that I don't care for: agnostic and atheist. I've never applied either of those terms to my ow...
by Ghost
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is Christianity Dying?
Replies: 18
Views: 605

Re: Is Christianity Dying?

I wonder sometimes whether civilization needs religion to remain stable. Civilizations obviously "want" religion, since it always pops up. It probably doesn't matter which religion or how accurate any of the supernatural beliefs are, as long as it provides people with some combination of community, ...
by Ghost
Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:43 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Wife dropped a bomb on me
Replies: 19
Views: 1058

Re: Wife dropped a bomb on me

That's much better than many of the things your subject line could have been referring to. Good luck with this transition.
by Ghost
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:19 am
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Philosopher AI's answer to: Who is God?
Replies: 4
Views: 1023

Re: Philosopher AI's answer to: Who is God?

Sounds like AI provides as coherent an answer as anyone else. I've long thought that even within a church congregation there are probably no two people with identical definitions of who and what God is, despite the assumption of shared beliefs. If pressed to provide a label for my own views, I would...
by Ghost
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:12 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Greetings Comrades
Replies: 17
Views: 742

Re: Greetings Comrades

Welcome to the site. Unfortunately, it can feel fraught to have an honest and open discussion these days about nearly anything of significance. I also have never lived around a lot of Mormons. I don't know whether that makes it easier or harder to navigate reconsidering one's beliefs. I listen to vi...
by Ghost
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:03 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: The End of the World: August 2020
Replies: 13
Views: 1811

Re: The End of the World: August 2020

Thanks for sharing your story, Five. I can relate strongly to many of the things you've said, such as the excitement of researching everything even if you're actively tearing apart fundamental parts of your world in doing said research. It's easy to feel alone in this, and in some ways it is somethi...
by Ghost
Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:28 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: A Brief Introduction
Replies: 7
Views: 1459

Re: A Brief Introduction

Update The closest thing I have to a written journal about personal/spiritual things in recent decades is my posts on various incarnations of NOM. And so, here's another one. Because one of the best things about NOM is reading the stories of others and relating to them, maybe pieces of this will me...
by Ghost
Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Has your definition of right and wrong changed?
Replies: 19
Views: 851

Re: Has your definition of right and wrong changed?

Can there really be any eternal truths or anything that really matters if reality itself dies someday? I've been trying for years now to come to terms with the idea that our morality is all arbitrary and made-up. I still follow and even care about a lot of the principles that I learned in Mormonism...
by Ghost
Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:49 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: God vs Evolution vs middle land
Replies: 20
Views: 3126

Re: God vs Evolution vs middle land

I like something Richard Dawkins once said, that it's conceivable that there are beings in the universe that are sufficiently evolved that we'd consider them gods. I believe he said that this is the only type of god he would consider remotely likely to exist. When I read this, years ago, I wasn't ye...
by Ghost
Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon quotes popping up in unexpected places...
Replies: 8
Views: 1041

Re: Mormon quotes popping up in unexpected places...

A supermarket that I drive by frequently has an electronic sign that rotates through specials on produce and inspirational quotes. A few years ago, there was a Neal A. Maxwell quote in the rotation. I don't remember what it was. Some kind of general encouraging sentiment. Editing to add that I just ...
by Ghost
Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Great Mysteries
Replies: 13
Views: 1209

Re: The Great Mysteries

My two favorite questions: When you look at the sky, does space go on forever? Any possible answer is hard to even think about. Why is there anything instead of nothing? Citing God as an explanation for complexity is fine, but it doesn't answer the question at all. All you're doing is introducing so...
by Ghost
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Grrrrrrrrr
Replies: 25
Views: 3466

Re: Grrrrrrrrr

In my area, the message has been similar to what Linked described. There are some dates starting next month when partial wards can begin to meet occasionally (though at this point I'll be surprised if those dates aren't pushed back), but they started out by saying that you can't come if you're over ...
by Ghost
Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What aspect of Mo’ism do you still hold dearly?
Replies: 22
Views: 3409

Re: What aspect of Mo’ism do you still hold dearly?

I'm always impressed with the responses to natural disasters. There's quick mobilization and significant expense that goes into those projects, on top of the volunteer labor. And I also appreciate the opportunity to jump in and provide meaningful service in those situations when I wouldn't know wher...
by Ghost
Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Grant Palmer's non-believing GA revealed
Replies: 31
Views: 3909

Re: Grant Palmer's non-believing GA revealed

[Redacted] was my favorite of the speakers that I heard from as a missionary. I still remember some of the things he said because they were a little different from what I was accustomed to hearing and in some cases refreshingly less vague (but still entirely faithful).
by Ghost
Fri Jun 19, 2020 4:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Material wealth and death
Replies: 13
Views: 1621

Re: Material wealth and death

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by Ghost
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bruce R. McConkie - REDACTED
Replies: 13
Views: 1441

Re: Bruce R. McConkie - REDACTED

Years ago, a guy in my ward lent me Bruck R. McConkie's biography. I wasn't terribly enthusiastic about reading it because at that point I was already leaning NOM (more than I admitted to myself, even) and preferred more nuanced approaches to things. But I ended up enjoying that book. I'm with you i...
by Ghost
Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bruce R. McConkie - REDACTED
Replies: 13
Views: 1441

Re: Bruce R. McConkie - REDACTED

Thanks for putting this together. I always enjoy reading this type of thing. It's too bad we don't seem to have anyone in leadership in modern times who really takes the doctrines and their implications seriously like this. At least not publicly. I remember reading Doctrines of Salvation (Joseph Fie...
by Ghost
Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Biblical scholarship vs the Book of Mormon
Replies: 33
Views: 4006

Re: Biblical scholarship vs the Book of Mormon

Maybe some of these arguments don't come up as much as others because the Book of Mormon becomes less relevant when you've reevaluated the Bible itself. By the time you reach the point of acknowledging some of these issues, your view of the Bible has probably evolved to some degree. And, similar to ...