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by Ghost
Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:17 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Mayan Nephites
Replies: 9
Views: 273

Re: Mayan Nephites

If only the Book of Mormon revealed whether they really sacrificed the winners or the losers (or neither) at the end of a Maya ball game.

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by Ghost
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring
Replies: 55
Views: 1210

Re: Terryl Givens steps into the BoA ring

This is a great thread. All of the responses are very interesting. Yes, I also appreciate this discussion. I sure was impressed with Givens's By the Hand of Mormon when I read it soon after its release. I've wondered in recent years how differently I might look at it now were I to read it again.
by Ghost
Fri Aug 30, 2019 12:39 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Book: The righteous mind
Replies: 7
Views: 266

Re: Book: The righteous mind

I think this book is excellent. One of the reasons I liked it was that some of the points Haidt made backed up thoughts I'd had myself about how we as humans come to conclusions and then attempt to support our conclusions using reason. It was amusing to find myself more or less applying this practic...
by Ghost
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:37 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Bumper Stickers
Replies: 11
Views: 322

Re: Bumper Stickers

There's always this one.

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I ordered it a few years ago but have not found anywhere to put it yet. I don't live in a place where anyone would ever recognize it if were I to put it on my car.
by Ghost
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:23 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Humor to Soften Truth
Replies: 34
Views: 1666

Re: Humor to Soften Truth

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by Ghost
Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:38 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOM friends at Sunstone
Replies: 5
Views: 341

Re: NOM friends at Sunstone

If I lived anywhere near Utah I would attend for sure. In 2015 by random chance I happened to be in the area on a trip and I caught one session on the last day. I also got to briefly and awkwardly meet a few people I admire. It was memorable.
by Ghost
Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mormon Stories - Donna Showalter
Replies: 34
Views: 978

Re: Mormon Stories - Donna Showalter

I also finished listening to this today. I don't listen to as many episodes as I used to, but I thought this was a good one. One thing I noted is that Showalter wishes that she hadn't exposed one of her sisters to the issues that were troubling her. Although she doesn't blame herself and her sister ...
by Ghost
Sun Jul 21, 2019 12:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM going the direction of some other online groups?
Replies: 50
Views: 2020

Re: Is NOM going the direction of some other online groups?

I originally started participating (more) at NOM after Facebook and other factors killed the Mormon-themed forum that I used to frequent (Mormon Stories Second Ward). While I understand why Facebook is a popular discussion platform, it's such a bad one that it's a shame so many groups end up being c...
by Ghost
Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Trickster God
Replies: 113
Views: 2492

Re: The Trickster God

How about Doctrine and Covenants 19, where God seems to be saying that He uses terms such as "endless" and "eternal" when taking about punishment in the afterlife because people will (incorrectly) interpret those words to mean endless or eternal in duration. At least, that's how I always interpreted...
by Ghost
Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:43 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Maybe it’d be nice if everyone posted a very short intro who they are
Replies: 25
Views: 1607

Re: Maybe it’d be nice if everyone posted a very short intro who they are

Back in the mid 2000s, discovering some interesting new details about Mormon history led me to start questioning. I quickly realized that Mormonism was simply the icing on the problem. I think my real "crisis" came when I realized that I could question the supernatural stories in the Bible and when ...
by Ghost
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What if? New HBO Show on Mormonism's Beginnings
Replies: 17
Views: 542

Re: What if? New HBO Show on Mormonism's Beginnings

I still wish Richard Dutcher's Joseph Smith movie had materialized.
by Ghost
Fri May 31, 2019 4:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 60
Views: 2582

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

A few years ago, those attempting to find a "middle way" were assailed by critics among the faithful and also among those who had moved on. You just couldn't please anyone if you were neither hot nor cold. I think it's interesting that now even NOM members disparage the NOM approach. (Not saying any...
by Ghost
Sat May 25, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?
Replies: 60
Views: 2582

Re: Is NOM really "middle way" to any extent anymore?

I've watched the tone of this place shift somewhat as the number of those who actually want to stay engaged to some degree diminishes and the number of those who simply feel trapped grows. Fortunately, even when the discussion here resembles the anger and open mockery you see in other places, an und...
by Ghost
Mon May 20, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: David O. McKay Biography (Prince) - Prophets, Seers, Revelators
Replies: 2
Views: 253

Re: David O. McKay Biography (Prince) - Prophets, Seers, Revelators

This might not be exactly what you are looking for, but it's a passage from Quinn's The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power (p. 363): By the mid-1950s a change was underway in Mormonism that profoundly affected its political influence. The hierarchy and church publications encouraged an unpreceden...
by Ghost
Sat May 11, 2019 9:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Nihilism
Replies: 27
Views: 1084

Re: Nihilism

I've found myself learning to accept uncertainty while also using it as a shield at times. By that I mean that I'm able to push off coming to an uncomfortable conclusion by escaping into uncertainty. Maybe those religious traditions have some truth to them after all, even if the evidence doesn't see...
by Ghost
Fri May 10, 2019 7:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Nihilism
Replies: 27
Views: 1084

Re: Nihilism

I might have mentioned this in another thread in the past, but one of the very few times I've had the opportunity to discuss my faith transition and questioning freely was with a co-worker, whom I had learned had once been in school to become a preacher but had lost his faith during the process. He'...
by Ghost
Fri May 10, 2019 4:18 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Nihilism
Replies: 27
Views: 1084

Re: Nihilism

I barely had a faith crisis before it became an existential crisis. (I don't really like using the word "crisis" here but it's the common term.) While I find the issues specific to Mormonism interesting, I think the more serious issues lie a few layers deeper. What Joseph Smith did or didn't do lose...
by Ghost
Thu May 09, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Newly disillusioned...
Replies: 26
Views: 1034

Re: Newly disillusioned...

Welcome. It's tough to decide what to do when confronted with a deluge of new information that makes you reconsider things that you might have never even thought to question. And as Corsair said, you can just keep digging and finding more layers if you're so inclined. It continues to be unsettling b...
by Ghost
Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Digital Sabbath
Replies: 9
Views: 502

Re: Digital Sabbath

I didn't read the article, but I couldn't help noticing the abundance of safety devices on their trampoline. They must spend as much time preparing to jump as they do actually jumping. One time I got a ride home from church with a friend as a kid and I was surprised that they played the radio in the...
by Ghost
Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:02 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is everyone going to be white and delightsome in the celestial kingdom?
Replies: 5
Views: 300

Re: Is everyone going to be white and delightsome in the celestial kingdom?

I don't know about skin color, but I always liked this tangential story. A WILY PROPHET. In the days when Brigham Young was directing the theocratic government of Utah, the Mormon missionaries in England converted a one-legged man near Dulwich. This man, now strong in faith, con- ceived the idea tha...