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- Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:31 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Declining callings and talks is getting easier for me
- Replies: 14
- Views: 260
Re: Declining callings and talks is getting easier for me
I probably need to follow your lead at some point and actually say I won't be taking any callings. I've had several meet with a leader for no stated reason messages (that I just ignored) in recent years, plus a few cases in which someone I knew from the ward pushed hard to try to get me to take a ca...
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:17 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: From 15th to 23rd
- Replies: 4
- Views: 156
Re: From 15th to 23rd
I sometimes feel lucky to have grown up in the era I did. Aside from the obvious (not living in a war zone or subject to starvation, etc.), it seems like kids had a lot more unsupervised play in the recent past than they do now. And how would my life have been different had I carried a mobile phone ...
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:55 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Pray Pay & Obey And Humor
- Replies: 7
- Views: 356
Re: Pray Pay & Obey And Humor
I don't think my ingrained Mormon aversion to most vulgar language and humor is ever going to dissipate. Funny how that can outlive fundamental elements of my faith. This thread reminds me of the times when I was younger and would hear a joke that was totally inappropriate but also very clever. One ...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:45 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Psychedelics in the Beehive conference
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1261
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:25 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith
- Replies: 9
- Views: 328
Re: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith
We might start with a simple belief as a child, but at some point that childlike faith faces questions and concerns. While our untested faith may have served well as a spiritual foundation, we must now move from simple faith through complexity to mature faith that is able to withstand future challe...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:06 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Tithe or you'll be burned?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 551
Re: Tithe or you'll be burned?
“For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” Funny to think about how normal things like this once...
- Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:26 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Looking back....
- Replies: 12
- Views: 813
Re: Looking back....
A TBM might say, "The Spirit told me it's all true. That's as good as remembering being with God." Interesting how this can be a way to give added weight to a spiritual witness. For example, saying that a spiritual witness is better than a vision because it can't be explained away, or that seeing G...
- Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:24 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Replacing the New Order Mormon
- Replies: 59
- Views: 47827
Re: Replacing the New Order Mormon
I'm personally in favor of keeping popular political controversies somewhat quarantined at NOM. While it's true that they are important and can't always be separated from other topics, it's always been kind of nice to have at least one place to go where the discussion isn't dominated by such things....
- Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:16 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Rainbows
- Replies: 4
- Views: 718
Re: Rainbows
I have asked of the Lord concerning His coming; and while asking the Lord, He gave a sign and said, "In the days of Noah I set a bow in the heavens as a sign and token that in any year that the bow should be seen the Lord would not come ; but there should be seed time and harvest during that year; ...
- Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:26 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Rainbows
- Replies: 4
- Views: 718
Re: Rainbows
When the time comes, it might be a challenge to stop all children everywhere from running through the sprinkler for a year.
- Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:39 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Replacing the New Order Mormon
- Replies: 59
- Views: 47827
Re: Replacing the New Order Mormon
Years ago, I used to strongly resist (in my mind) the oft-voiced idea that the "middle way" was inevitably temporary and that no one would continue to try to make it work in the long term. I guess I didn't want my future to be that easily predictable. I still identify more with the NOM label than an...
- Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:15 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Went to church today (Dec 24th) and …
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1697
Re: Went to church today (Dec 24th) and …
I also went to one-hour church today for the first time in ages, for family reasons. It was interesting to note how much more I feel like an outsider these days, even though I know a lot of the ward members (though I've technically never been active in this ward following a pandemic reshuffling). Th...
- Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:56 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ruminating on Mormon Ideas
- Replies: 16
- Views: 3934
Re: Ruminating on Mormon Ideas
Adam and Eve are claimed as the first Mormons. Not sure how they got to be Mormons. I think I know that one. Adam (and presumably Eve) got baptized by flying through the air. Though I guess you could interpret that in a more boring way, that they were possessed by the Spirit and shambled down into ...
- Tue Nov 28, 2023 1:16 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Lester Bush, author of "Priesthood Ban" article dies
- Replies: 7
- Views: 1604
Re: Lester Bush, author of "Priesthood Ban" article dies
According to the Tribune article, and other things I've read, the Lester Bush article made a deep impression on Spencer Kimball. It's possible that it influenced a few other Church leaders, but as we know it's what "the prophet" thinks that makes the difference. Yes, that second biography by Edward...
- Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:14 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2194
Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
Maybe John Lennon could have imagined something like that, but I find it challenging. I guess it depends on whether you see those traditions and their differences as a cause of tribalism and conflict, or just one way people express their natural inclinations. (I've always found that song kind of an...
- Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:44 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
- Replies: 11
- Views: 2194
Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
Just came across this article that I found interesting: https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ Ayaan Hirsi Ali left Islam years ago to become an outspoken atheist, but has now embraced Christianity. I don't know much about Ali outside of a Sam Harris interview I listened to a while bac...
Re: Them
I don't remember whether it was on NOM or elsewhere that someone recently said that we as humans have a desire for community but in recent years many have had to settle for merely being part of an audience instead of a true community. While I don't think I ever totally fit in with Mormons even at my...
- Sun Oct 22, 2023 9:51 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Reintroduction and Star Wars Analogy
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4662
Re: Reintroduction and Star Wars Analogy
I also used a COVID-driven reorganization to finally give up on my attempts at active participation at church. Seems that's pretty common, on top of all the people who stepped back within various religions after not being able to assemble for a while. I wonder whether Mormons were more resilient or ...
- Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:54 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: NOM Anthems
- Replies: 6
- Views: 5038
Re: NOM Anthems
This song struck me as somewhat relatable early in my faith transition. (I think it's also a good song, musically.) Right Where It Belongs by Nine Inch Nails See the animal in his cage that you built Are you sure what side you're on? Better not look him too closely in the eye Are you sure what side ...
- Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:53 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What did you learn in the temple today, honey?
- Replies: 33
- Views: 15000
Re: What did you learn in the temple today, honey?
I took the learn something new every time thing to mean that you'd gain insights into your own life, as opposed to some new secret of the universe. I probably steered myself toward this understanding out of necessity for things to make sense, and I did find that if I mostly ignored what was going on...