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- Fri May 10, 2024 9:53 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Mormon Stories 1840: Brittney Hartley on Nihilism
- Replies: 1
- Views: 65
Mormon Stories 1840: Brittney Hartley on Nihilism
https://www.mormonstories.org/portfolio-items/confronting-nihilism-after-mormonism/ I've been listening to Mormon Stories since it started (though not quite as much in recent years). As relatable as many of the episodes have been, I think this one comes closest to matching my thought processes as I...
- Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:27 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: A New Theistic Argument
- Replies: 15
- Views: 3001
Re: A New Theistic Argument
An idea that's sometimes thrown around is that Lucifer rebelled not out of pride but because he sincerely believed that Heavenly Father's plan was flawed. That the types and degree of suffering baked in just weren't worth it and there must be a better way. This also makes me think of the part in Bru...
- Wed Apr 10, 2024 2:17 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Best part of conference?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 728
Re: Best part of conference?
I was a little surprised to hear Nelson state that baptism will get you into the Celestial Kingdom but only temple covenants and marriage would get you "Exaltation" within the Celestial Kingdom. I've never read that baptism alone, would get you into the CK. I think this is the standard teaching. Ba...
- Fri Apr 05, 2024 7:18 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What is the purpose of religion?
- Replies: 3
- Views: 220
Re: What is the purpose of religion?
I'd also add 3) Community. and maybe 2b) The idea that wrongs will eventually be made right somehow, there's a reason for suffering, and there will ultimately be the justice that's missing in life. 2c) The idea that there's a powerful being who knows and cares for you. You're not just a random colle...
- Wed Apr 03, 2024 2:42 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Would you do it all over?
- Replies: 9
- Views: 504
Re: Would you do it all over?
Would I have hesitated to be baptized as an eight year old if someone explained to me some of the problems of theism, Christianity and Mormonism? I'm not sure. At that point it would probably have depended on who was doing the explaining. But starting life over knowing what I know now would be a lot...
- Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:57 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: GC wish list !!!
- Replies: 16
- Views: 765
Re: GC wish list !!!
A new revelation that clarifies and expands upon the descriptions of the afterlife found in scripture.
But there will likely be nothing new other than mundane policy changes until the end of time.
But there will likely be nothing new other than mundane policy changes until the end of time.
- Thu Mar 28, 2024 12:42 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Doubt
- Replies: 8
- Views: 538
Re: Doubt
Maybe it's because I've gone through a faith crisis, but I've become a lot more conscious of how much unwarranted certainty people express in general. Something comes up in the news and instantly everyone knows enough to make a moral judgment and toss opinions around. (Not everyone and not always in...
- Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:31 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Declining callings and talks is getting easier for me
- Replies: 14
- Views: 748
Re: Declining callings and talks is getting easier for me
I probably need to follow your lead at some point and actually say I won't be taking any callings. I've had several meet with a leader for no stated reason messages (that I just ignored) in recent years, plus a few cases in which someone I knew from the ward pushed hard to try to get me to take a ca...
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 1:17 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: From 15th to 23rd
- Replies: 8
- Views: 664
Re: From 15th to 23rd
I sometimes feel lucky to have grown up in the era I did. Aside from the obvious (not living in a war zone or subject to starvation, etc.), it seems like kids had a lot more unsupervised play in the recent past than they do now. And how would my life have been different had I carried a mobile phone ...
- Thu Mar 21, 2024 9:55 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Pray Pay & Obey And Humor
- Replies: 7
- Views: 633
Re: Pray Pay & Obey And Humor
I don't think my ingrained Mormon aversion to most vulgar language and humor is ever going to dissipate. Funny how that can outlive fundamental elements of my faith. This thread reminds me of the times when I was younger and would hear a joke that was totally inappropriate but also very clever. One ...
- Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:45 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Psychedelics in the Beehive conference
- Replies: 11
- Views: 1715
- Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:25 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith
- Replies: 9
- Views: 548
Re: 9 stories from those who returned to the faith
We might start with a simple belief as a child, but at some point that childlike faith faces questions and concerns. While our untested faith may have served well as a spiritual foundation, we must now move from simple faith through complexity to mature faith that is able to withstand future challe...
- Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:06 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Tithe or you'll be burned?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 768
Re: Tithe or you'll be burned?
“For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” Funny to think about how normal things like this once...
- Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:26 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Looking back....
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1389
Re: Looking back....
A TBM might say, "The Spirit told me it's all true. That's as good as remembering being with God." Interesting how this can be a way to give added weight to a spiritual witness. For example, saying that a spiritual witness is better than a vision because it can't be explained away, or that seeing G...
- Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:24 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Replacing the New Order Mormon
- Replies: 59
- Views: 78132
Re: Replacing the New Order Mormon
I'm personally in favor of keeping popular political controversies somewhat quarantined at NOM. While it's true that they are important and can't always be separated from other topics, it's always been kind of nice to have at least one place to go where the discussion isn't dominated by such things....
- Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:16 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Rainbows
- Replies: 4
- Views: 893
Re: Rainbows
I have asked of the Lord concerning His coming; and while asking the Lord, He gave a sign and said, "In the days of Noah I set a bow in the heavens as a sign and token that in any year that the bow should be seen the Lord would not come ; but there should be seed time and harvest during that year; ...
- Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:26 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Rainbows
- Replies: 4
- Views: 893
Re: Rainbows
When the time comes, it might be a challenge to stop all children everywhere from running through the sprinkler for a year.
- Wed Dec 27, 2023 1:39 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Replacing the New Order Mormon
- Replies: 59
- Views: 78132
Re: Replacing the New Order Mormon
Years ago, I used to strongly resist (in my mind) the oft-voiced idea that the "middle way" was inevitably temporary and that no one would continue to try to make it work in the long term. I guess I didn't want my future to be that easily predictable. I still identify more with the NOM label than an...
- Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:15 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Went to church today (Dec 24th) and …
- Replies: 6
- Views: 1791
Re: Went to church today (Dec 24th) and …
I also went to one-hour church today for the first time in ages, for family reasons. It was interesting to note how much more I feel like an outsider these days, even though I know a lot of the ward members (though I've technically never been active in this ward following a pandemic reshuffling). Th...
- Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:56 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ruminating on Mormon Ideas
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5756
Re: Ruminating on Mormon Ideas
Adam and Eve are claimed as the first Mormons. Not sure how they got to be Mormons. I think I know that one. Adam (and presumably Eve) got baptized by flying through the air. Though I guess you could interpret that in a more boring way, that they were possessed by the Spirit and shambled down into ...