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by oliver_denom
Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Reddit Post on Joseph's Bad Math in the Book of Mormon
Replies: 24
Views: 585

Re: Reddit Post on Joseph's Bad Math in the Book of Mormon

Polygamy: Both here and in the "afterlife", it just doesn't add up in more than one way. Unless you maintain the gender stereotype that women are more righteous, pure, simple, and therefore less accountable for certain sins. Then you can imagine yourself a heaven where women outnumber the men 20 to...
by oliver_denom
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:42 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is it just me or are Returned missionaries much more intense?
Replies: 20
Views: 808

Re: Is it just me or are Returned missionaries much more intense?

Coming home is a frightening experience because it's the first time these kids get to make their own decisions. The need for normality was important for me. I just wanted something solid and secure. I wasn't able to break out of missionary mode until I had a plan and felt safe in my new life.
by oliver_denom
Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Religious identity the same as racial, gender, and sexual identity?
Replies: 8
Views: 357

Re: Religious identity the same as racial, gender, and sexual identity?

Did you read about the example he gave of Mary Anne Sause? He said that her rights were violated because police wouldn't allow her to pray in her own home, as if they were going door to door to stop people from praying. What happened is they came to her house because of a noise complaint and then st...
by oliver_denom
Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Do You Come From Royal Blood?
Replies: 26
Views: 911

Re: Do You Come From Royal Blood?

However, I tend to take that with a major grain of salt. When my dad researches family history, he seems to link to the most interesting possible ancestor, not the most likely. So I think there is very high likelihood of error in that family tree. That does bring up concerns with this whole amature...
by oliver_denom
Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Are Wards Jumping the BSA Ship Early?
Replies: 26
Views: 958

Re: Are Wards Jumping the BSA Ship Early?

Apparently, some stakes are beginning to have "Priesthood Encampments" as a replacement for scout camp. https://www.lds.org/youth/activities/stake-and-multistake-activities/camps-and-youth-conferences/aaronic-priesthood-encampment?lang=eng Activities include, "individual scripture study, scripture ...
by oliver_denom
Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention
Replies: 12
Views: 538

Re: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention

The LDS church is not at all democratic, there aren't any elections or representatives. They will opt to weather the storm. I wouldn't expect any significant changes in our lifetime. If anything, the move of other churches to less literal and more spiritual positions will probably encourage them to...
by oliver_denom
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:45 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention
Replies: 12
Views: 538

Re: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention

StarbucksMom wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:05 am
What is a "Folk Religion?" Would Mormons be in the folk or other category?
It refers to some loose collection of cultural spirituality and superstitions that aren't formalized into a religious system. Mormonism would be lumped under Christianity.
by oliver_denom
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention
Replies: 12
Views: 538

Re: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention

From what i've read, the entire country has a decline in church goers. Millenials are just not buying a lot of organized "helf fire & damnation" religion, or even some of the more liberal as well. The LDS church is in that same soup. You might find this interesting. One possible explanation in decl...
by oliver_denom
Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention
Replies: 12
Views: 538

Decline drives change at Southern Baptist Convention

Going more conservative and fundamentalist has proven a failed strategy for Southern Baptists. For more than a decade, the denomination has been experiencing precipitous decline by almost every metric. Baptisms are at a 70-year low, and Sunday attendance is at a 20-year low. Southern Baptist churche...
by oliver_denom
Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Do You Come From Royal Blood?
Replies: 26
Views: 911

Re: Do You Come From Royal Blood?

It's like I tell people on reddit, bragging about royal ancestry doesn't make you special, it just makes you an asshole.
by oliver_denom
Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What Happens when you tell the In-laws that your family is no more
Replies: 12
Views: 404

Re: What Happens when you tell the In-laws that your family is no more

A little insight I have gained that I have yet to understand: For a religion that was and is persecuted and tries to preach to the rest of the church That they should be tolerated they produce some of the most intolerant people. It's all one way. They want it, but they don't want to give it. Once t...
by oliver_denom
Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:27 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Corsair's Visit to Nauvoo with Believers
Replies: 28
Views: 1100

Re: Corsair's Visit to Nauvoo with Believers

My in-laws just celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary and they wanted a trip to Nauvoo with all of their children and grandchildren. T I have a question. Is it pretty common for the grandparent generation to plan vacations to churchy spots so they can get all of their wayward (inactive) childre...
by oliver_denom
Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Things are rapidly changing in the LDS Church!!!
Replies: 19
Views: 1161

Re: Things are rapidly changing in the LDS Church!!!

They ditched Home teaching and replaced it with an identical program called Ministering. Feel the change! Old men and young men now meet together for an hour every Sunday instead of separate. Wow, that is change, real, honest to goodness change. Now I’ll grant you, leaving the Scouting program is a...
by oliver_denom
Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Steven Hassan's survey on controlling groups
Replies: 9
Views: 326

Re: Steven Hassan's survey on controlling groups

I listened to the Mormon Stories podcast on this. The first thing that came to mind was the fact that the entire model just seemed so anecdotal. It's not as if a scientific definition exists as to what constitutes a dangerous group, and it's even more difficult when you try to pin down an answer for...
by oliver_denom
Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Advice please?
Replies: 13
Views: 498

Re: Advice please?

It sounds to me like you don’t want to go! You don’t need anyone’s permission to cancel or go to a meeting with someone you don’t want to see. You just need your own permission to not go, it’s ok to listen to yourself! Realize you don’t have to do anything. You don’t owe anyone an interaction ever ...
by oliver_denom
Thu May 31, 2018 3:42 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The brethren's lack of faith
Replies: 12
Views: 496

Re: The brethren's lack of faith

Instead, they teach that you should donate even if it's at the expense of necessities like shelter or food. That's what's wrong. We should be more like the brethren on this point, not less. I agree with you completely, except that they've way over-done it with their rainy-day fund. That is a hell o...
by oliver_denom
Thu May 31, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The brethren's lack of faith
Replies: 12
Views: 496

Re: The brethren's lack of faith

We recently learned that the brethren have a gigantic "emergency fund". Why? Where is their faith? This goes directly against the teachings of Jesus. ... They apparently don't believe the above scriptures. They also refuse to follow Christ's instructions that he gave to his 12 apostles to travel wi...
by oliver_denom
Wed May 30, 2018 7:00 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: In Which my Family is Propelled
Replies: 10
Views: 601

Re: In Which my Family is Propelled

Exactly. On a family level, I am now the harbinger of sad heaven... that's a lot of responsibility, being able to turn someone's heaven into hell... That's a lot of power you've got there. It's one thing to ruin Christmas, but it's a whole other thing to ruin heaven. You'd have to be more powerful ...
by oliver_denom
Tue May 29, 2018 6:35 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: In Which my Family is Propelled
Replies: 10
Views: 601

Re: In Which my Family is Propelled

But my MIL, my mother, my ward even have a large interest in me being there. If my Family is out, I (we) hold all the cards. Yes, this. I don't know why it took so long for me to see the real power dynamic. The church has done such a fabulous job indoctrinating us with the belief that we need the c...
by oliver_denom
Thu May 24, 2018 8:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: This is a great thread on AskReddit, insane stories from the Bible.
Replies: 17
Views: 623

Re: This is a great thread on AskReddit, insane stories from the Bible.

Corsair wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 7:57 am
I can assure you that while he was quickly ecommunicated, he absolutely did not die.
I guess the Stake President just wasn't faithful enough.