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by oliver_denom
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Just received 'Correlation Research Department Survey'
Replies: 26
Views: 1085

Re: Just received 'Correlation Research Department Survey'

FiveFingerMnemonic wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 2:46 pm
oliver_denom wrote:I received my gift card. It's 6.00 USD.
Who says there's no such thing as half a free lunch?
I may use it to buy a big box of Cheez-It's from Amazon pantry.
by oliver_denom
Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Just received 'Correlation Research Department Survey'
Replies: 26
Views: 1085

Re: Just received 'Correlation Research Department Survey'

I received my gift card. It's 6.00 USD.
by oliver_denom
Fri Apr 20, 2018 4:48 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 3 Things I have questions about
Replies: 20
Views: 468

Re: 3 Things I have questions about

Im wearing a bag with a sweater over and pants under. The outline of my knees through the capris you think? And this is worse than having been gay - married? Should I take a lover? Yes, it's worse. You don't give off the right signals that you're one of the tribe. In Mormonism, "one of us" means "g...
by oliver_denom
Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Ex-Mormonism is just as crazy as Mormonism!
Replies: 17
Views: 346

Re: Ex-Mormonism is just as crazy as Mormonism!

That reddit sub is just where people land when they're in that particular stage of faith transition. I agree with others here in pointing out that it's temporary, but since there is a constant churn of voices, it creates the illusion of perpetuity. Sometimes being this way helps people reframe their...
by oliver_denom
Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Believe in basic Christianity
Replies: 13
Views: 237

Re: Believe in basic Christianity

Hi: I don't believe much in the church anymore but I still believe in the Christian basics . I think Joseph was a complete fraud as others have stated on this board . I have tried the nuanced view but found that only works for a while. Can a person hang on in the church to satisfy his TBM spouse wh...
by oliver_denom
Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:46 am
Forum: Support
Topic: President Nelson's Message to Kenya
Replies: 22
Views: 574

Re: President Nelson's Message to Kenya

"I will share with them the importance of us having temple recommends," he said, "that tithing is going to break the cycle of poverty." So put your shillings on Joseph to win at 10-1 odds. You'll clean up at the payout window. IF their tithing was used to reinvest directly back into the community w...
by oliver_denom
Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Neil Anderson's BYU Devotional address - 4/10/18....
Replies: 32
Views: 1018

Re: Elder Neil Anderson's BYU Devotional address - 4/10/18....

In a few short decades we've literally gone from openly mocking ministers in our endowment ceremony to openly embracing the title as our own. It would be as if we began calling the conference center our "great and spacious building" without irony.
by oliver_denom
Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Neil Anderson's BYU Devotional address - 4/10/18....
Replies: 32
Views: 1018

Re: Elder Neil Anderson's BYU Devotional address - 4/10/18....

Don’t worry it is bound to get worse. You have a guy (Nelson) who doesn’t believe that God loves us unconditionally and says so from the pulpit, God only loves us IF we jump through the correct hoopes. He is married to a woman ( Wendy who has the same name and is the same age as his daughters )who ...
by oliver_denom
Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Buckle up, apocalypse imminent!
Replies: 33
Views: 914

Re: Buckle up, apocalypse imminent!

BTW, what happened to all the year supply talks in GC?? Seems like I hear so little of that these days, shouldn't that be ramping up as the Effing alpca-lips gets ever so damn close!? :x :x :x It will be coming back soon. The year 2030 is a 200 year anniversary for the church, and roughly 2000 year...
by oliver_denom
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:26 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Emperors New Clothes
Replies: 12
Views: 489

Re: The Emperors New Clothes

This is how I've felt listen to people talk about the last conference being filled with revelation. They basically reorganized a Sunday school class and changed a few minor details about how they harass active and inactive members. I've read Mormon revelations. I was brought to memorize them, live m...
by oliver_denom
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Return and Report- Smelders Quorum Mtg the First
Replies: 15
Views: 623

Re: Return and Report- Smelders Quorum Mtg the First

Also, “those guys” letting the rest of the group know THEY know it’s all inspired and proves we’re on the verge of a growth explosion. (Yep. You heard it here first). Somebody ought to tell "those guys" that combining groups is not historically indicative of things that are growing. :roll: Maybe th...
by oliver_denom
Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Buckle up, apocalypse imminent!
Replies: 33
Views: 914

Re: Buckle up, apocalypse imminent!

I just think the belief that the end of the world is imminent is an integral part of Christianity. It was there from the very beginning. Jesus preached it, Paul preached it, those who came after preached it in each subsequent generation. If you believe that Jesus is going to appear in the clouds at ...
by oliver_denom
Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Big Brother/Big Sister is Watching (and reporting) On You....
Replies: 25
Views: 1043

Re: Big Brother/Big Sister is Watching (and reporting) On You....

I hopped on the website and had a look at the changes. First of all, the organization of "ministering" is exactly like home and visiting teaching. The website lists families who are "unassigned" and companionships who are "assigned" to each family. You can also break companionships into different di...
by oliver_denom
Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:36 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Philosophical Question about Theocracy
Replies: 9
Views: 341

Re: Philosophical Question about Theocracy

Should the Church be a master of humanity rather than its servant? The idea of church and state separation is not a principle in the U.S. constitution, but I am increasingly glad for it. The phrase "separation of church and state" isn't in the constitution, but the idea absolutely is in the constit...
by oliver_denom
Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Ministering Program
Replies: 39
Views: 1084

Re: New Ministering Program

If this is implemented as described, then it will be a lot worse than the home teaching program. Basically, the program remains the same, but the emphasis on numbers is being shifted away from whether someone was visited, and toward whether the leadership has interviewed a ministering companionship....
by oliver_denom
Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Big Brother/Big Sister is Watching (and reporting) On You....
Replies: 25
Views: 1043

Re: Big Brother/Big Sister is Watching (and reporting) On You....

It sounds like they are only gathering some Yes / No information:

Was a ministering interview conducted with this member this quarter? Y/N
by oliver_denom
Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Sunday morning NOMfrence thread
Replies: 85
Views: 1509

Re: Sunday morning NOMfrence thread

+5 for TEAM GONG! I don't care whether he thinks it's revelation. TEAM GONG!!!111one -5 For openly admitting that he's trotting out speakers from around the world for the sole purpose of appearing diverse. He gave a little sneer, which should really be another -5. Do it, don't hang a lamp shade on ...
by oliver_denom
Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: We can't criticize everything
Replies: 33
Views: 1110

Re: We can't criticize everything

I attended priesthood session last night and was pleased with how that meeting was used by Nelson. It was very different than previous meetings. I was also quite surprised with the changes. It takes balls to demote your most faithful group of supporters. So you think the High Priests will see it as...
by oliver_denom
Sun Apr 01, 2018 7:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: We can't criticize everything
Replies: 33
Views: 1110

We can't criticize everything

Myself and many others have long criticized the lack of diversity in the within the twelve. They've begin to rectify this with Gong and Soares, so I think they deserve some kudos. I didn't believe they'd step outside of the white Utah professional, but they did, and it's a refreshing surprise. Yet, ...
by oliver_denom
Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:27 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Changed my mind about watching conference
Replies: 9
Views: 391

Re: Changed my mind about watching conference

Church is a literal kingdom and its leaders have the same authority as actual monarchs The church is the only true church on earth, meaning the only one that god himself authorizes. Because of the above facts, our primary concern should be obedience to the brethren Ballard hit all of those points, ...