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by Grace2Daisy
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Dear Mr. Stears - letter from Kirton McConkie
Replies: 12
Views: 605

Re: Dear Mr. Stears - letter from Kirton McConkie

It certainly is apparent the church has decided to "circle the wagons". A few years ago I would have been surprised reading a document such as this, but currently I'm not surprised, its just another crazy day in Mormon Land.
by Grace2Daisy
Sat Sep 08, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Straw That Broke the Back
Replies: 14
Views: 816

Re: The Straw That Broke the Back

In Hans Mattsson's book, Truth Seeking, he tells of his concerns with the church's direction regarding the church focus on finances. As a 70 he struggled listening to the purpose and direction they were given in SLC. At times there was something in the tone that Hans had difficulty reconciling with ...
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: In Praise of the Seeker
Replies: 3
Views: 226

Re: In Praise of the Seeker

Whether it's a government, a company, a school, a church, whatever, truth is generally seen as more important than upholding a system or institution when it is wrong. I've only be doing touch and goes with this forum over the past few years, mainly due to being frustrated with the realization I, an...
by Grace2Daisy
Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Questions to get TBMs thinking
Replies: 39
Views: 1850

Re: Questions to get TBMs thinking

If you received the most powerful spiritual witness in your life, and that witness told you that the church was not true, would you believe it? I did Let me first say, I believe having a dream is not a confirmation a spirit appeared to you, it is more possibly your inner mind working through some i...
by Grace2Daisy
Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: I feel sorry for our parents.
Replies: 15
Views: 935

Re: I feel sorry for our parents.

One component of the problem is the obsessive need for some members to humble brag - “I am so grateful that all of my children were married in the temple”, “I am so blessed to have a husband who honors his priesthood”, “I am so glad all of my sons served missions”, etc. They never stop to think abo...
by Grace2Daisy
Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:32 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Considering sending this to bishop - don't want DW to have to explain my position to him
Replies: 15
Views: 643

Re: Considering sending this to bishop - don't want DW to have to explain my position to him

You know how the church organization works. This bishop may honor your request, it will however be a topic of discussion in bishopric meetings, ward council, with PH leadership and the RS will work on ways to support your wife. Keep in mind, the life span of a bishop is five years (COB sends letter ...
by Grace2Daisy
Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: outed
Replies: 17
Views: 1099

Re: outed

5...4...3...2...1.. DW and I invited to meet with the SP tomorrow during the 3 hour block. Coincidence :?: Yeah, it happened to me too. Here's the thing, I have attended the Episcopal church a few months including meeting with the Rector (Bishop) for lunch a few times. If there was a "member" that ...
by Grace2Daisy
Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Are You Mormon?"
Replies: 24
Views: 893

Re: "Are You Mormon?"

When we tell people we have six kids we always get the same reaction, "You're either Mormon or Catholic!" We laugh with them and never respond. There was a time when I would have proudly stated I was a fifth generation Mormon, but I frankly do not want to get into why we've moved on. My DW made the ...
by Grace2Daisy
Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Love as you should not Love"
Replies: 32
Views: 1211

Re: "Love as you should not Love"

“He attacks us through our appetites. He tempts us to eat things we should not eat, to drink things we should not drink, and to love as we should not love! ” I'm not sure who wrote this for him. . . . not sure if he is attacking the gay folks in the church, or BYU soaking, or what's happening in eve...
by Grace2Daisy
Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Meilingkies Return and Report 2
Replies: 16
Views: 1315

Re: Meilingkies Return and Report 2 - THE NUMBERS

And the SP wants to know WHO skipped Church, every Sunday. That is telling. . . . . I've served on two High Councils in two stakes (in the US) and even though our attendance was suffering we were never asked WHO was not attending. Except for the Single Adult Ward. . . . they tried very hard to keep...
by Grace2Daisy
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Why do they call bishops with young children?
Replies: 12
Views: 404

Re: Why do they call bishops with young children?

When I was on the HC the SP called a young bishop with seven kids under the age of 11. He asked for, and was granted, two counselors who were in their late 20's and early 30's with four and five kids. So, quick math shows you they had 16 kids between them, all under the age of 11. Also, none of the ...
by Grace2Daisy
Sat Dec 23, 2017 4:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Konfession Time
Replies: 60
Views: 3033

Re: Konfession Time

Corsair wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:27 am
Hagoth wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:57 pm
Coffee makes me feel happy.
Coffee makes me feel very happy.
The Best Part of Waking Up. . . . . I never realize how true that is.
by Grace2Daisy
Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: signing the Sam Young petition about youth interviews
Replies: 24
Views: 1522

Re: signing the Sam Young petition about youth interviews

I just signed it as well. One of our sons has been through counseling on and off for five years because of the interviews. The probing questions were, quite frankly, appalling. The counselor (not LDS) was openly furious about the effect it had on him. And this by a bishop who got his YW President pr...
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:13 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: If you were prophet for a day...
Replies: 13
Views: 579

Re: If you were prophet for a day...

There are far too many to list, I would essentially change the church to being a more mainstream Christian church rather than an outlier. As an example, temple marriage is one of the more devisive hurtful activities that divides families rather than uniting them. If I don't hold a temple recommend I...
by Grace2Daisy
Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Asking for a suggestion
Replies: 18
Views: 976

Re: Asking for a suggestion

You've probably already seen this, it is Debunking FairMormon's Debunking of the CES Letter: https://cesletter.org/debunking-fairmormon/

And here is MormonThink's response to FM going after that site: http://www.mormonthink.com/fair.htm
by Grace2Daisy
Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:32 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Need something mindless to do during conference...ideas?
Replies: 13
Views: 490

Re: Need something mindless to do during conference...ideas?

Play a game called Joseph and Emma! You pick three women in the ward you believe the Lord would allow you to have as polygamist wives. Your DW also makes a list of women in the ward she would allow to be her polygamist sisters. Then compare the two lists. By the time the argument, err. . .ah. . . di...
by Grace2Daisy
Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:22 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Dutch holiday
Replies: 3
Views: 480

Re: Dutch holiday

Your transition is almost complete. It will be when you both go shopping for new underwear, a truly spiritual experience! :shock:
by Grace2Daisy
Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: A real Christian
Replies: 10
Views: 687

Re: A real Christian

I've always enjoyed a quote by Stephen Fry,
“The incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge.”

“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
by Grace2Daisy
Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: No longer mormons
Replies: 34
Views: 1995

Re: No longer mormons

So, there is no disciplinary council, no letters of resignation, nothing like that. We just don't consider ourselves mormon anymore. Maybe we can move on... We met with the bishop, told him we just did not believe all we have been told for decades (I later emailed him a link to each of the essays a...
by Grace2Daisy
Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: 70 ex'ed
Replies: 85
Views: 6254

Re: 70 ex'ed

My question, I would assume given he was in the 1Q of 70s, he had a Second Anointing. If he was ex'ed and had a Second Anointing. . . . big deal, his calling and election is secured, so party on!