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by FiveFingerMnemonic
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:10 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Is There A Connection Between The Policy Reversal & New Legislation Passed In Utah?
Replies: 13
Views: 337

Re: Is There A Connection Between The Policy Reversal & New Legislation Passed In Utah?

The more I see these changes the more convinced I am that they are based on legal and corporate pragmatism and not on any Christian compassion. 2 hour church and mission age/family contact rules were simply retention strategy and this latest reversal certainly seems to be along legal lines in my opi...
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Explaining the Dramatic Flip-Flop
Replies: 16
Views: 839

Re: Explaining the Dramatic Flip-Flop

I try to troll a bit on Jeremy's page but he never allows my comments to go live. Poor kid, I have charity for him.
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What I said I'd never do.... accepted a calling
Replies: 19
Views: 696

Re: What I said I'd never do.... accepted a calling

I got an email from Bp's counselor about the need to set me apart for my calling. Really? I need a magic ritual to give me permission to collect checks for a fundraiser? They don't realize how silly and controlling it sounds from the other side of the fence. I replied that I'm happy to help with th...
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The typical LDS hellfire speech
Replies: 2
Views: 198

Re: The typical LDS hellfire speech

I'm so happy I no longer feel burdened with defending or rationalizing such fear mongering. The truth shall set you free.
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Doctrine vs Policy -- a distinction without a difference?
Replies: 16
Views: 498

Re: Doctrine vs Policy -- a distinction without a difference?

The argument that doctrine never changes but policy is by nature always changing is a bad argument due to being demonstrably false in history. Examples: Lectures on Faith (originally the "doctrine" part of the D&C) removed due to changing nature of the Godhead in LDS theology. Adam/God doctrine as t...
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!
Replies: 123
Views: 2518

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!

Eventually they will run out of places to announce temples and renovations will be the only thing to announce.
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!
Replies: 123
Views: 2518

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!

New temples and some renovations of old ones. That's it!

I feel like Ralphy in Christmas story decoding the message "Drink your ovaltine".
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!
Replies: 123
Views: 2518

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!

Satan's gonna get ya! Boogie boogie boogie!
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Sun Apr 07, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!
Replies: 123
Views: 2518

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!

Feels like he is justifying MTC closures and other consolidations of branches and wards like is happening in Europe.
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!
Replies: 123
Views: 2518

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!

Bednar misquoting JS and leaving out that "Presbyterianism isn't true".
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!
Replies: 123
Views: 2518

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday Afternoon!!!

Gong show!
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: General NOMfrence Sunday morning!!!!
Replies: 97
Views: 1603

Re: General NOMfrence Sunday morning!!!!

Watching KSL between sessions is pretty tortuous. Those poor Amish LDS converts being paraded for a documentary. Out of one backwards fundamentalist religion right into another.
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:54 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Now is not the time for "I told you so"
Replies: 4
Views: 294

Re: Now is not the time for "I told you so"

Well said, a few psychology lessons like this can do some good among the redditors.
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Does anyone have references to the Nov. Policy being given by revelation?
Replies: 12
Views: 402

Re: Does anyone have references to the Nov. Policy being given by revelation?

Today's deseret news article actually mentions it! https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900063943/church-lgbt-gay-lesbian-policy-mormon-baptisms-blessings-apostasy.html President Russell M. Nelson, who succeeded President Monson as church president, was president of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles ...
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
Replies: 51
Views: 1382

Re: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'

The deseret news article and comments is fascinating to read. Especially this part where they point out prior screwups to justify this one: Some church policies have changed quickly. For example, the church dropped Jesus Christ from its name in 1834, then restored it in 1838. Church leaders also cha...
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:54 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
Replies: 51
Views: 1382

Re: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'

Wow. I'm truly shocked they actually did something right! Is there any actual video of Oaks making this announcement? I can imagine how forced it must have been. I'm truly happy that they likely forced Oaks to make the announcement. His blatant bigotry in the past is sickening. I'm curious as to wh...
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:45 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
Replies: 51
Views: 1382

Re: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'

The amount of mental gymnastics involved in justifying this reversal is going to be hard on orthodox members and that makes me smile.
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: my attempt to process, help, and share
Replies: 16
Views: 553

Re: my attempt to process, help, and share

Fantastic writing. Your treatise on types of miracles was quite enjoyable.
by FiveFingerMnemonic
Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:32 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Signs of church in Apostasy
Replies: 21
Views: 829

Re: Signs of church in Apostasy

Jfro, Here is the pdf document that details Brigham's diversion of part of the handcart rescue group to go get his steam engine and groceries at Fort Bridger. Also has a lot of other fascinating history about how messed up the handcart plan was. “ONE LONG FUNERAL MARCH”: A REVISIONIST’S VIEW OF THE ...