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What Renlund has failed to establish that the church may be looking beyond the mark. Instead of a simple belief in God, there are requirements for exact wording in baptism, worrying about whether a toe pokes up, doing temple ceremonies, etc.

alas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:38 am

moksha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:36 amPretty music.

I miss the hymns. I mean, not just kinda miss, but they bring tears to my eyes.

I really love this hymn. Come Thou Fount of Every Blessing is beautiful music.

alas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:27 am

blazerb wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:23 am I know this is a shallow observation. He has a Captain Kirk cadence. "We ... come in peace. We ... do not know ... your ways."

+20 points to blazerb

Thank you!

I know this is a shallow observation. He has a Captain Kirk cadence. "We ... come in peace. We ... do not know ... your ways."

He's going after OUR supporters, obliquely. Wow he really is. Good for him. To add on to what lostinthemiddlemormonism said. He needs to go a little farther and acknowledge that worship of church leaders is also distracting people from God. Then I'd really get behind him. Still +5 in my opinion.

He's going after OUR supporters, obliquely.

I can't help but see the smirk this guy showed when he told 60 Minutes "We have significant resources."

Promoting toxic positivity. -20 And I was wondering why what sounded uplifting was turning my stomach. Yeah, you named it. Toxic positivity. Give the crook another -20. I do like hearing people share stories of enduring real trials. Listening to this talk reminds me of someone who compared two ...

Promoting toxic positivity. -20

MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:33 amYoureacrook.png

I cannot help but see a manipulative, cynical man when he speaks. Such an ass.

I just want to remind him that the revealed name of the church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. However, this name is owned by the Strangites, if I understand correctly.

Garments. Oh boy. I can't think of the last time I heard those mentioned in conference.

Does he seem like he's aged in the past 6 months?

I think Ballard is mixing the First Vision stories.

MoPag wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 9:00 am

blazerb wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 8:55 am Did I miss much? I spent yesterday with my daughter, so I skipped conference. It was awesome.

Not really. D.Todd gave a horrible talk. Oaks is a ranting homophobe again.

Same old, same old.

Did I miss much? I spent yesterday with my daughter, so I skipped conference. It was awesome.

I have a bit of empathy this morning for the dear leaders. How would it feel to have inherited a church that was growing rapidly and see that growth stop and probably reverse during your leadership? Is RMN on his knees at night wondering what he is doing wrong? Does he think it is a test for him to ...

My wishful thinking: 1. Garments are only required to be worn at the temple 2. Tithing should go to local charities that will actually use the money 3. An absolute smackdown of Tim Ballard to the point where there is nothing left to salvage My actual prediction: 1. A crap-ton of temples announced 2 ...

I think they will avoid saying anything controversial. Maybe we'll get another plagiarism scandal. That would be interesting. They will declare boldly that abuse is wrong, but they won't say anything that very many people could disagree with. It will be Chicken Soup for the Soul, but less tasty.

I think this may be hard to answer. I googled "sex addiction treatment." (Google will sell that search, I know.) Many reputable clinics will treat compulsive sexual behavior, but the definition is so far beyond what is called "sex addiction" in the church. Reputable clinics will deal with people who ...