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I have a weird question. Does anyone know how flat earthers explain summer above the arctic circle? The sun is above the horizon for entire days. If the north pole is at the center of the disk, we should all be getting 24 hours of sunlight during the summer since the sun is up for 24 hours above the...

Take care. I expect to be in this situation. As you said, the really awful part is that the policy will almost certainly be changed at some point. A coworker told me about his relatives showing up to a sealing. They weren't Mormon and did not know that they would not be able to go inside. It was emb...

My shelf never broke, though. It's more like you pick up something, dust it off, look at it and put it in the "no big deal" bag or internalize it with the "well, that's telling me something about the Church I didn't want to stare in the face." I eventually faced the fact that the LDS church doesn't...

Never happen. But I don't expect churches to apologize. Same reason I don't expect them to "open the books" to us and give it to us straight. Whether it is Mormon or Islam, you give it straight and it will only rock the boat. The dues paying members want a nice smooth ride. Exactly. I love the comm...

When I was eight, I was given my first Book of Mormon. I took Moroni's promise literally. When he said that I could know the truth of *all* things, I believed him. I read the BOM. I prayed. I still could not tell when people lied to me.

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Tue Feb 26, 2019 8:40 pm

The video made me miss Hinckley. I had forgotten how much I liked him. He had a gentle good humor that no successor has had.

You should listen to the Mormon Stories interview with Hans Mattsson. Hinckley was a different person when he was in CEO mode.

Yet another "we did this messed up stuff for years but it's OK we don't do that anymore" revelation. Is it a good thing that they no longer isolate young people from their families while they are missionaries? Yes. Is it still messed up that they did that in the first place? Absolutely. Does that u...

Well, to be more precise, think in terms of "Ephraim" being the umbrella nomenclature for anyone descending from the lost 10 tribes of Israel. If your math is correct, wouldn't the numbers be astronomical? You're right. From that long ago, we are all descended from everyone who had kids and was not...

But then there was this other view that maintained that there was an admixture of Ephraim among the gentiles and depending on how much Ephraimaic blood you had determined how receptive you were to the gospel. If Ephraim lived about 3000 years ago, that would be about 100 generations. If each succes...

I listened to the rest. :roll: The takeaway for Maxwell employees: If you err on the side of maintaining intellectual honesty you will suffer the consequences. -You will upset the trustees (and endanger your career). If you err on the side of sacrificing intellectual honesty in favor of towing the ...

I have not seen this posted here. If it is discussed elsewhere, please redirect me. Recently, the Maxwell Institute posted a video in which Jeffrey R. Holland addresses the Maxwell Institute in the 2018 Neil A. Maxwell Lecture. You can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpUN29orJmM Bill ...

So maybe he just meant don't waste your time with research, have others do it for you? In any event, what calculated nonsense, and I'm frankly a little worried. I always told Sis M, from the earliest days of my marriage, that once they started telling me what to read and what to think, I was done. ...

Yes, not all sex acts lead to pregnancy. Also, a woman does not get pregnant every time she has "normal" sex. It's actually relatively rare, less than 10% of the time I believe. If people weren't have a lot of sex, we would not see many kids around. I think the best explanation is infrequent sex and...

J. Golden Kimball was the legendary trickster when I was young. I don't know that there is anyone filling that role today. The leaders don't like the thought of tricksters.

I'm not really responding to the conversation, but someone reminded me of this story the other day. It seems to fit the topic. Basically, DNA shows that a man in England is a descendant of a 9000 year old skeleton found nearby. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-family-link-that-reaches-back-300...

I think the story of Steven is a change to the narrative. In the other presentations on doubt, the doubter was always satisfied with the answers and came back. Correct me if I'm wrong. Steven, though, had all his questions answered and still left. I think the Q15 wants to create the impression that ...

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Thu Jan 24, 2019 1:24 pm

I think hobbits should be on the hate crime bill.

Who hates hobbits? Now orcs . . . .

The 6,000 year timeline for Adam and Eve has all but disappeared and replaced with a "You're free to believe however you want in a 6,000 year Adam/Eve, global flood, etc." This is one of those smoking guns that is really obvious but trying to get a believer to understand is like trying to nail jell...

I read part of it, until I got nauseous. He did mention at the beginning that he had received a specific assignment to read anti Mormon literature. I thought that was interesting. I learned way back in an institute class that the Q15 feel required to collect as many books considered anti-Mormon as ...

Does it not seem self-evident the church is using a type of cunning deception with how they lay the trail for "plausible deniability"? They put the essays out, and when people have questions about things, the church then comes along and says: "Oh, we've already answered that....see?...we haven't he...