NOM

I wonder if it's partly a matter of perceived contriteness of the sinner. Someone regularly participating in consensual sexual activities is clearly not on board with following the authority of the church; they are a rebel and need to be broken. But if the sexual predator weeps about how they can't...

Oh, it is Snapchat that turns call for an investigation into this kid which lead to his arrest. Parents and church knew he was wanted and hid him anyway, even putting him in position to go after more girls. What really pisses me off is that there are young men who are told they can't pass or bless ...

I have this fantasy that for stake visits my house gets chosen and he shows up so I can grill him over the fire with questions and ask him to heal my paralyzed neighbor. I'm guessing apostles don't stoop that low though. My fantasy is to meet Bednar and ask him to strike me down and show me his awe...

Shame on you Brother Hawkins. You know damn well men don't randomly volunteer to be a bishop or stake president. They are supposedly called by inspiration direct from God, and set apart by the authority of God by those who hold that authority. Or do you really want me to start regarding my bishop a...

I have a few gay friends. I don't know that any of them struggle with the attraction. They struggle with bigots treating them badly.

I think the article is misleading. It says: Medical uses are being studied, but just like many pain medications such as opioids, marijuana is an addictive substance. I checked with the CDC, https://www.cdc.gov/marijuana/faqs/marijuana-addiction.html , which says: Is it possible for someone to become...

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Sat Aug 17, 2019 2:31 pm

I will likely have to take this training. I doubt it is anywhere close to the BSA training. I also doubt a background check is required either.
Still sounds lame.

I just completed the training. It is not comparable to the BSA training at all.

I first read the title of the thread as "Protecting Children and Youth from the LDS Church." I guess my psyche is in a weird place.

I beg to differ with him. I think MOST women really want to know more about polygamy, but the church doesn’t allow discussion. The instructors manuals actually say that if it comes up, the instructor should change the subject and move on. We are forbidden to discuss many other history topics. Imagi...

So then is the takeaway that the Brethren are counting on a critical mass of members who don't give a flying flip about problems in Church history to move the Church forward through the next few decades? They don't think they need to openly address the issues because most members don't care anyway?...

To me, your first paragraph says: I started noticing a lot of issues with the church, and actually allowed myself to take a step back from TBM-ness and think about the issues rationally (reason) and realized that because of those issues, the church couldn't be "capital T" True™. That sounds about r...

I agree. Holland should have met with her in person and at least talked with her explaining he couldn’t heal her son and offered an apostolic blessing of comfort instead. I get why they don’t do this but can you imagine a church led by compassionate leaders who understood her pain? Who understand o...

Interesting. What was it that "helped" you to stop believing the tenets of LD$-Inc.? I felt so betrayed by some personal situations, and I realized that the church did not give any help in solving them. I had been bothered by the gay marriage issue for a while. I ignored it, irrationally, until the...

I started on episode 3 and am taken back by how naive and crazy she sounds to actually think Holland can heal someone from being gay. Then I remembered we all were in this deep and Mormonism is just plain crazy! Koo koo kachooooooo! Her vulnerability in sharing that was amazing. She had more faith ...

Good point, blazerb, but Joseph's literal visitation by a physical God of flesh and bone is still the central story we're stuck with; a God who has a scrotum and nostril hairs. I agree that they are backpedaling but they have to balance their retreat with their adherence to the First Vision as the ...

I know that reason had little to do with my faith transition. I use reason now to reassure myself about about my choices, but emotional reasons had much more to do with my beliefs than reason. So, I mostly agree that reason is unlikely to convince someone to leave though it may work for some.

But the new Mormonism with its 9 core doctrines that don't say much is fine with intelligent design. We've jettisoned almost all of the interesting doctrines in order to look more normal. GBH declares that we don't know much about God's progression to becoming a god. I hardly ever hear talk about ma...

But the bigger question to me is - does it matter? If he apologizes, the problems that led to it are still there. If he apologizes, it just further shows this is a man made real estate company parading around as a religion. I guess it just doesn't matter... this is all theater for the members to fe...

Part of the problem may be that "NOM" doesn't really describe most of us here, anymore. We're mentally out if not resigned, for the most part. At least that's what it looks like to me. I don't mind. This is a comfortable place to read what others have on their minds. However, it may discourage other...

Is the decertification happening on Sept 1, then? The most recent news I saw was this:

https://universe.byu.edu/2019/05/15/byu ... hearing-1/