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Only anti-FLDS, anti-polygamy, and anti-Warren Jeffs. Regular Mormons recognize that this portrayal was them until 1926 when polygamists were no longer allowed in the Temple. That was 36 years after the **wink-wink** first polygamy ban. I'm horrified by polygamy. The manipulation and coercion were ...

I've had callings like this in the past. They are awful. Trying to get the group together on short notice. Getting calls when you're on vacation to perform the service. Getting yelled at by some otherwise well-meaning sister who is angry that you were not aware of someone's needs. It's miserable. Sa...

This essay is 8 paragraphs of absolutely nothing but to try and spin you around so much you don't even know where you began. Hagoth summer it up perfectly though - the church *used* to take a stand on everything but now they take a stand on nothing because they've been proven wrong at just about ev...

Wow, that is a big stinky pile of nothing. Summary: people don't agree about evolution and our prophets are absolutely useless, but they're really important and awesome. Note to correlation committee and public relations: LDS doctrine does not make any room for evolution. LDS scripture makes it imp...

Thanks for posting this though. I need to take a look at it. I'd like to know more about the history of the church's response to it. In my BYU Biology class I think we did read the Joseph F. Smith statement and then moved on. I wasn't aware that BYU professors were fired. I had heard (maybe in erro...

Over on Reddit, attention was called to one of the history topics on the church's website regarding evolution: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/organic-evolution?lang=eng A couple of things I found interesting about this article. First, it is in the history section instead of...

Good thing we have prophets to tell us what the hell God meant by "hot drinks" and that he didn't really mean what he said. Of course the original prohibition against hot drinks was not because of their content, but their temperature. A lot of people in the 19th century were condemning hot drinks b...

I can really understand why Emma and the other sex partners living with Joseph would put their foot down about the tobacco spittle and whiskey bottles strewn about after the School of the Prophets late-night meetings, but tea? I'm sure you've read enough to have heard that the hot drinks prohibitio...

Not Buying It wrote: ↑

Fri Jun 10, 2022 9:39 am

You know, I am kind of offended that your referred to this Church leader as simply "David Bednar".

The appropriate name to reference him by is "Susan Bednar's Husband".

I apologize profusely for my disrespect to Susan Bednar's husband's wife.

Yes, my research showed that George A. Smith played a huge role and did what he was ordered to do (by Brigham Young, IMO). You are 100% correct. He was not a good man (again IMO) and really set the stage for the massacre. So many use the argument that Brigham Young did send orders not to kill the p...

Interesting. Source? Years of reading on this subject. Much of it was on the internet. I thought Blood of the Prophets by Will Bagley was a good source for a lot of the information. I'm not sure I believe BY ordered the massacre, but it's clear that he tried to protect those who carried it out, at ...

You forgot (living) between Follow and The. But isn't it amazing how little kids sing this song in primary and yet never think about what doing so would've led them to do in the past? It's insane, really. I don't remember the "living" part of the quote being emphasized when I was young. Correct me ...

If you ever get challenged, just remind whoever confronts you that some things that are true are not very useful.

I suspect that there's something about being LDS that inhibits true friendship. Either it's that most emotional needs are filled by the org, or there is something about LDS minds that prohibits them from thinking / interacting out of the LDS box. I find it almost impossible to have a deep meaningfu...

I think self-care is important. We can't survive if we are constantly worrying about all the world's problems, almost all of which are beyond our ability to affect. I try to adopt my periods of apathy with the intent to get more involved when I have more bandwidth to dedicate to bigger problems. The...

Now the educated are dropping out while they see their neighbors fall for conspiracy theories and think Trump is going to return the nation to real Christianity, even when those neighbors know the man isn’t faithful to his wife, hires prostitutes, cheats people who work for him, and is a compulsive...

On a recent Mormon Stories, JD, RMF and Gerardo talk about a speech given to the Nation Press Club by David Bednar. You can watch the review here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1STMu-AswM . Near the end, they report that Bednar repeated the claim that in the Mormon Church, the more educated a mem...

I had another thought today on the topic. It appears to me that the church really wants to be seen as tolerant in all the worldly ways without actually showing any tolerance and, in fact, decrying tolerance quite often. So we have RMN asking us not to use worldly identifiers. He sounds like he wants...

If her training was at BYU, I am pretty sure they were teaching that gays could be fixed when she got her degree. I was at Provo High, across the street from BYU campus, and I was taught that it was inborn clear back in 1969-1970. Then at Weber state and my grad school, we were taught that it was i...

I can't help but interpret his words in light of Wendy Nelson's words from about 1.5 years ago when she told LGBT+ persons that they could pray to have their "sexual feelings be in harmony with eternal laws." Her training should have taught her that "pray the gay away" does not work. She just double...