NOM

My DW went through a similar situation. She hit he wall a few times during my disillusionment and eventual admission that I didn't believe it anymore. She made statements like "This is not what I/we signed up for!", "I just can't process this." and "I just don't know who you are anymore." What helpe...

I remember a story growing up TBM where some of the brethren found special stones and were using them, only to have JS tell them theirs were wrong, of the devil and they were being deceived. That was certainly convenient for him, maintaining his one-true-seerstone honcho status. It was the same tric...

"...channel Martha Stuart when making candles in mason jars or say a prayer well enough to summon God-chocolate to my door when I really needed it! There is a cast system in the church, both for men, women and children, but I think it's compounded for the women. The stay@Home super moms in the rich...

Might also be a good segway into sending her a link to that Deseret News story on using the essays in GD for 2017. http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865669945/Essays-on-Mormon-history-doctrine-find-new-visibility-in-official-app-Sunday-School.html Something like "Not only is the TC performing for T...

Not only do it, but do it all out. By forcing everyone to take time out of their evening when they are already tired and cranky, everyone will get extra "enjoyment" from your time. Upvote for this one. It's like reverse psychology. Dig into 3rd Nephi and the olive tree allegory; numb their minds so...

We all know now, thanks to the essays and apologists, that those artists are not really inspired after all. I mean, look how they portrayed the translation of the BOM! They totally had it wrong and deceived us all those years. I remember hearing the stories about the inspired artists and their paint...

Aaaaah Yeah!

Almost thou persuadest me to attend a GD class to see how this plays out. But I'll rely on you active NOMs to return and report this year.

Hagoth wrote: Either I'm really stupid or the church just declared that divining rods really work and are approved/powered by God.

And the unpainted dry corner on the wet painted deck of the old ship Zion just got smaller. Where will you go?

One of the first books I threw into the trash postmo: https://deseretbook.com/p/love-letters-joseph-emma-angela-eschler-67851?variant_id=32411-dvd Yet, the COB still pushes the false narrative of the super awesome dedication Emma and Joseph had to each other, that somehow that transcended all the po...

It was one of the more painful points of cogdis for me on my journey out as to where I would land postmo. I tried for a while to make the pilgrimage back to pure Christianity into the NT, but ultimately I knew in my heart that those words were written by men. All scripture and religion unraveled for...

Our friends and loved ones now all have these official essays on their favorite handheld objects (wow, that sounds naughty). Our goals align ironically with the institutional church. We should help them at least progress towards an understand more like Richard Bushman and less like Bruce McConkie. ...

I struggle with this - should we respect our sisters' and brothers' right to believe in nonsense, or do we challenge this kind of thinking when we see it? Is it more kind to just let them believe what they want to believe if they are happy with it? Or is it more kind to try and help them feel the f...

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Come on Fluff! All your Nomish friends are doing it! Don't doubt your doubts before you click the links!

Wow! This thread though, excellent and fascinating. Another parallel that struck me from the masonic sources are the order of the words faith, hope and charity, parroted in Moroni and other Mormon scriptures: 20 Wherefore, there must be faith; and if there must be faith there must also be hope; and ...

I also add my cursing upon RubinHighlander for discovering yet another trove of terrible apologetics...While reading this I will do a shot whenever one side uses logical reasoning to counter the claims of the other side. I"ll be happy to provide the liquid refreshments for this event. I have high-e...

Declaration of Lineage - seems like they should totally shy away from this part now that DNA tests are so easily accessible. Just like removing the ancestry of the American Indians from the title in the BOM, you would think the COB would stop shooting themselves in the foot with individual promises ...

Thanks for ruining what was shaping up to be a pretty good day. :lol: Sorry dudes! Misery loves company. I didn't even make it as deep as you two did on that site. I feel guilty, like I created a fishing scam for you two by putting that link up there. But thanks for digging out the stinky nuggets o...

http://www.ldsanswers.org/dominant-church-history-narrative-not-true-lds-scholars-encourage-new-history-new-policy-new-church/ See the new face of apologetics. They claim the answers are coming, that they don't take the Bushman approach to a new narrative. I'm guessing we'll need to prepare ourselve...

Brilliant! I'm in that realm of out but not officially out. My mom became active again after years of being IA/MIA. She does not know of the NOM status of me and my brothers. So, I keep my name on the books for that reason. I actually like her active in her small town because she's a 3 hour drive ov...

There are conflicting scriptures at play here. "By their fruits ye shall know them." and "Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven." I also get a bit bothered when I watch those shows that do good deeds for peopl...