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- Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:33 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Recognized National Leader?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2459
Re: Recognized National Leader?
The Church just finished arguing in front of the Arizona Supreme Court that they do not have to report child sexual abuse. The Arizona Supreme Court agreed. So just call Kirton McConkie and they will help bishops cover up the abuse. The national leader in "hide the crime and overall deceptiveness ...
- Thu Apr 20, 2023 4:31 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 6761
Re: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
In the 19th Century, there was a property dispute over lands at Independence, Missouri. During the course of the trial, the LDS Church submitted both affidavits and testimony from the polygamous wives of Joseph, who testified they were wives both in name and deed. So much for Nancy Winchester and ...
- Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:59 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 6761
Re: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
If there was one girl, you might be able to say that and not be just defending the indefensible, but there is a clear pattern. What if apologists were to argue that God wanted Joseph as a prophet because of his uncontrolled lechery? There is always that percentile that will throw away all critical ...
- Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:54 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 6761
Re: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
Don't get me wrong I'm not dismissing anyone's point of view, but I don't think there is enough evidence to be able to make a determination one way or the other. There was a lot of crap said about the Mormons and Joseph Smith in particular. How true all of it is in reality is something above my ...
- Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:55 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Technology- has it ruined music?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 15650
Re: Technology- has it ruined music?
I've been reading a book about Steely Dan and it got me thinking about music since the 1960's. For me it has steadily been going downhill. :roll: Now this is a common reaction. People typically (My Mom and Dad- 1940's, and my Grandmas- 1920's are examples) love the music they grew up with, and I ...
- Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:19 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Hey, didn't you notice the Antichrist is here?
- Replies: 18
- Views: 19650
Re: Hey, didn't you notice the Antichrist is here?
I've seen some creative interpretations using the Bible before...but this takes the cake.
- Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:04 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Don't care anymore
- Replies: 24
- Views: 16860
Re: Don't care anymore
Great thread as I've been gone for a long time also. For the most part I don't care much about the Church also. Although as time has gone by, I've realized my anger was (for the most part) not against the church, but against certain individuals within the Church. Still don't believe it's the one ...
- Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:31 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
- Replies: 23
- Views: 6761
Re: Joseph Smith “sexual predator” label?
Don't get me wrong I'm not dismissing anyone's point of view, but I don't think there is enough evidence to be able to make a determination one way or the other. There was a lot of crap said about the Mormons and Joseph Smith in particular. How true all of it is in reality is something above my ...
- Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:27 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Could Mormons Spot the Anti-Christ?
- Replies: 11
- Views: 4384
Re: Could Mormons Spot the Anti-Christ?
Great Post SaidNobody. The fact that everyone is screaming at the tops of their lungs "Orange Bad Man" is the big clue that he is not the anti-christ. Nor is he even that bad of a guy. May I also submit that all the fervor is really to distract everyone's attention away from something or someone ...
- Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:44 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Senator Mike Lee: Trump's another Captain Moroni!
- Replies: 22
- Views: 11426
Re: Senator Mike Lee: Trump's another Captain Moroni!
Kevin Christiansen from MD&D put it well: Having read the Book of Mormon, and Nibley's essay on Freeman and Kingman in the Book of Mormon, I missed the parts of the story where Captain Moroni paid off mistresses, separated children from refugee parents as deterrent, hired corrupt and ignorant ...
- Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:02 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: New to the website
- Replies: 22
- Views: 9504
Re: New to the website
Welcome Nlloydj, like others have already said, I can also sympathize with what you are going through at the moment. As you go through this journey, realize that it takes time. You are in no hurry. However, as you continue to question and learn things, take time to substantiate your mental health ...
- Thu May 07, 2020 10:39 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: A one-liner that captures your disaffection
- Replies: 100
- Views: 60448
Re: A one-liner that captures your disaffection
Now that the thread has been bumped. I've heard and made up lots of one-liners over the years, some "funny," some "polite" so as to not hurt believers feelings; But honestly, at this point, I hope with most folks I can just cut to the chase and say: The church is not true. Or you could have just ...
- Thu May 07, 2020 10:30 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Donald Trump A Most Noble President
- Replies: 11
- Views: 9448
Re: Donald Trump A Most Noble President
Whether you like him or not, you have to have amazingly strong staying power and thick skin to weather the media backlash and storm that he has endured. And again whether you agree with what he says or not, he handles those daily press conferences better than the media themselves.
- Thu May 07, 2020 10:02 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: What will church look like...after Covid-19
- Replies: 28
- Views: 18441
Re: What will church look like...after Covid-19
I believe church attendance is going to be way down until at least Jan 2021. Still attendance numbers will take years to recover fully, if ever. So you will definitely see a push to get people back out to meetings. On the flip side, I think the church is going to wait until people feel the crisis is ...
- Thu May 07, 2020 9:46 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Culture of Fake Friends
- Replies: 22
- Views: 15702
Re: Culture of Fake Friends
And that, my friends, is one thing Mormonism has taught us - other people are a means to an end. You don't serve people because you love them, you serve them because you are supposed to and God wants you to and you'd better if you want to make it to the tippity top of the Celestial Kingdom ...
- Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:17 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ed Smart comes out as gay
- Replies: 28
- Views: 14623
Re: Ed Smart comes out as gay
NOTHING is private about Facebook. You can add to that list twitter, Instagram and any other of those big social media sites. If you are well known or infamous, anything you post can come back and bite you. And in this case it came back to bite Ed Smart. From the way I see it this situation is ...
- Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:54 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Would the church ever change the name of BYU...?
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5973
Re: Would the church ever change the name of BYU...?
The name is a national well known brand at this point. And there is nothing "negative" about the name from an outsiders perspective, except for the fact that it's linked to the LDS church.
What BYU should REALLY do is look into changing their ridiculous honor code.
What BYU should REALLY do is look into changing their ridiculous honor code.
- Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:22 pm
- Forum: Introductions
- Topic: Maybe it’d be nice if everyone posted a very short intro who they are
- Replies: 38
- Views: 76359
Re: Maybe it’d be nice if everyone posted a very short intro who they are
Born and raised Mormon. I always making decisions based on doing the "right" thing and what my church leaders said would be the "righteous and smart thing to do." Because after all you will be blessed financially and be destitute otherwise...right? Well the exact opposite happened to me and I ended ...
- Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:13 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Not Bothering to Correct Misinformation About the Church
- Replies: 12
- Views: 7347
Re: Not Bothering to Correct Misinformation About the Church
I tell people I have family members in Utah but was never a member. I even supervise an RM and even told him I was never a member. Works for me...
- Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:25 am
- Forum: Introductions
- Topic: New member of the group
- Replies: 20
- Views: 21021
Re: New member of the group
Hey everyone, I'm M, nice to meet everyone. I finally joined up because I needed some people to talk to, who understand what it's like leaving the Church. I'm a 30-year old single guy, finishing an undergraduate degree in Psychology. I grew up a member of the Church and really, wholeheartedly ...