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by Thoughtful
Mon Aug 24, 2020 6:28 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: My wife got flowers from her dead father, c/o her TBM sister
Replies: 10
Views: 323

Re: My wife got flowers from her dead father, c/o her TBM sister

Oh my. This is toxic and manipulative. I am so sorry.
by Thoughtful
Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: LDS Church proposes new community near future Tooele Valley Temple
Replies: 48
Views: 4114

Re: LDS Church proposes new community near future Tooele Valley Temple

COJCOLd$-Inc. withdraws community/rezoning plans: https://www.ksl.com/article/50007804/latter-day-saint-leaders-withdraw-rezoning-request-for-proposed-tooele-valley-temple-community And instead they want to annex the temple lot area into Tooele, instead of rezoning Erda. More than one way to skin a...
by Thoughtful
Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: LDS Church proposes new community near future Tooele Valley Temple
Replies: 48
Views: 4114

Re: LDS Church proposes new community near future Tooele Valley Temple

COJCOLd$-Inc. withdraws community/rezoning plans: https://www.ksl.com/article/50007804/latter-day-saint-leaders-withdraw-rezoning-request-for-proposed-tooele-valley-temple-community And instead they want to annex the temple lot area into Tooele, instead of rezoning Erda. More than one way to skin a...
by Thoughtful
Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Suit worship driving me crazy
Replies: 6
Views: 703

Re: Suit worship driving me crazy

My nevermo friends are fascinated by Mormon prepper doctrines. I try to give them background to make things make sense and it is soooo crazy sounding.
by Thoughtful
Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How essential is a literal Adam and Eve story to Mormonism?
Replies: 61
Views: 2355

Re: How essential is a literal Adam and Eve story to Mormonism?

The word "Adam" just means "man." The story includes a talking snake. It's not really even a myth, it's a fable. It's impossible to imagine this fable as history. There is zero chance that there are historical figures involved in this obvious fable. Yup. Man beguiled woman with his “snake” and thus...
by Thoughtful
Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New handbook changes
Replies: 15
Views: 728

Re: New handbook changes

Looks like some new changes. I no longer have to ask my regional sales manager bishop down the street if it's cool if I get a vasectomy apparently, although it's still discouraged. Also if you're a young teen who has a kid out of wedlock you have the option to jump straight into Elders quorum or re...
by Thoughtful
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sunstone Roll Call
Replies: 15
Views: 624

Re: Sunstone Roll Call

And then came the "Joseph wasn't a polygamist" by Kenneth Card. :shock: I started watching that presentation and it was very painful. His argument seemed to be, "all of these scriptures show that plural marriage is not right and then these statements show that Joseph was not a fan. Therefore, Josep...
by Thoughtful
Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sunstone Roll Call
Replies: 15
Views: 624

Re: Sunstone Roll Call

And then came the "Joseph wasn't a polygamist" by Kenneth Card. :shock:
by Thoughtful
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Raising a heathen child.
Replies: 3
Views: 286

Raising a heathen child.

We were listening to Bert E at Sunstone last night on the literary origins of heaven and hell. 9yo: He's not supposed to say h.e.... Me: he means the place, he's not telling anyone to go there. 9yo: (listens to part of Adam and eve story): I dont get it. Me: so he's explaining what people used to th...
by Thoughtful
Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sunstone Roll Call
Replies: 15
Views: 624

Re: Sunstone Roll Call

I probably should have brought this up earlier, but I am presenting at Sunstone tomorrow (July 31) at 3:25 PM. The title is: "How Is the Church Really Doing?: Some Uncorrelated Statistics". If you would like to read my real name, see my real face, and hear my real voice, come attend. This is not so...
by Thoughtful
Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sunstone Roll Call
Replies: 15
Views: 624

Re: Sunstone Roll Call

moksha wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:27 pm
https://www.sunstonemagazine.com/2020-schedule/

Wednesday, July 29th
091 - Smith-Pettit Lecture Heaven and Hell: A History of the Afterlife presented by Dr. Bart D. Ehrman
It's a great lecture so far.
by Thoughtful
Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Sunstone Roll Call
Replies: 15
Views: 624

Sunstone Roll Call

anyone?
by Thoughtful
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:19 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: What are you drinking right now?
Replies: 427
Views: 65226

Re: What are you drinking right now?

Currently drinking a lovely cup of coffee. So wine reduction...this is how I got into really drinking wine, by dinking around cooking with it. Cooking wine is too salted, so I would just play with adding wine to sauces, learned to make wine reductions, and generally started sipping wine here and the...
by Thoughtful
Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How essential is a literal Adam and Eve story to Mormonism?
Replies: 61
Views: 2355

Re: How essential is a literal Adam and Eve story to Mormonism?

That said, I believe that an older ceremony said the garden story was figurative, It did. "This is figurative as far as the man and woman are concerned." In my TBM days I took that to mean that the two volunteers were figuratively representing a literal Adam and Eve. In my nuancing days I took it t...
by Thoughtful
Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:16 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: How essential is a literal Adam and Eve story to Mormonism?
Replies: 61
Views: 2355

Re: How essential is a literal Adam and Eve story to Mormonism?

Without the fall and atonement, Mormonism falls apart.

That said, I believe that an older ceremony said the garden story was figurative, this was changed before I went through and we were each to consider ourselves Adam and eve.
by Thoughtful
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The temple endowment ceremony is changing.... again...
Replies: 33
Views: 1447

Re: The temple endowment ceremony is changing.... again...

Schools are starting to have liability waivers and their insurance won't cover COVID claims.

Will the temple also have waivers?

My dad works at SoJo but I doubt he would tell me.
by Thoughtful
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:51 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?
Replies: 441
Views: 66709

Re: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?

I donated blood and get a free antibody test. So in 2 weeks I will find out if today I have antibodies.
by Thoughtful
Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:04 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why will you stay or comeback ?
Replies: 22
Views: 1012

Re: Why will you stay or comeback ?

I can't go back, its too toxic. Child abuse, racism, homophobia. But I so badly miss a community. I miss choir. I wanted to start taking my 9yo to a Lutheran church and then Covid. My family is far away and Spouseman's are delusional. So we sort of stagnate. I think he's ready to resign soon. Kids a...
by Thoughtful
Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: RFM Halloween Episode
Replies: 0
Views: 165

RFM Halloween Episode

I'm behind...but listened to it last night and thought it was interesting. Anyone else listened to this episode?

I wondered if our NOMs have any similar stories they would like to share.
by Thoughtful
Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: LDS Church proposes new community near future Tooele Valley Temple
Replies: 48
Views: 4114

Re: LDS Church proposes new community near future Tooele Valley Temple

As a resident of Tooele County for about 22 years it’s been fun to read this thread and see what people think 😊. Maybe I can provide a little bit of clarification on this topic. First of all, yes, Tooele is a rural county with nearly all residents living in the northeast corner – within commuting d...