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by Palerider
Mon Apr 29, 2024 8:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Today was a hard day !
Replies: 9
Views: 204

Re: Today was a hard day !

Conman,

The psychological toll here must be terribly draining. Is this really better than outing one's self as a nonbeliever?

Does your own psychological/emotional health count for nothing in order to make everyone else happy?

You obviously love those around you more than they love you.
by Palerider
Sun Apr 28, 2024 8:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temples, temples everywhere...
Replies: 7
Views: 364

Re: Temples, temples everywhere...

Where’s the down side? Well, if there really is a God as they claim, and he really cares about the poor, as the NT claims, they could be in trouble when they die. But that’s a bunch of “ifs” and ironic that they are more in trouble if they are right about what they teach. That's the great thing abo...
by Palerider
Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Temples, temples everywhere...
Replies: 7
Views: 364

Re: Temples, temples everywhere...

Attention future presidents: If you don't bring this mania to a screeching halt soon you will have a thousand temples waiting in the wings despite a membership that is actually shrinking. It's insanity. Just read recently that the church is too heavy on the money side and they need to use a bunch o...
by Palerider
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Spaulding Theory?
Replies: 5
Views: 228

Re: New Spaulding Theory?

I saw this a couple of days ago and tried to post a link on this site. Unfortunately I couldn't access the NOM site. What's up with that?

Anyway I think Lars has found at the very least, a plausible or credible origin for the BoM and possibly a smoking gun.
by Palerider
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:00 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Resignation help
Replies: 4
Views: 150

Re: Resignation help

Thanks Hagoth!

We'll see where this goes.
by Palerider
Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood DoorDash
Replies: 3
Views: 195

Re: Priesthood DoorDash

I've had them call and ask me to speak in sacrament meeting and had them send the missionaries even when I've asked them nicely but firmly not to. The resignation letter was the only thing that seemed to break through the "I'm doing this for your own good" determination that envelopes the minds of m...
by Palerider
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Resignation help
Replies: 4
Views: 150

Resignation help

Any truth to the rumor that a member can now resign electronically on the church's website or some such?

My dear wife is getting ready to pull the trigger. 8-)
by Palerider
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The new throat-slitting
Replies: 8
Views: 516

Re: The new throat-slitting

True, you swear before God and Angels, but it is to Russell M. Nelson and Co. that you really pledge your life and allegiance. Am I wrong about this? You are not wrong. If you go back and listen to Rusty's closing talk, he makes a statement regarding "making covenants with God AND YOUR LEADERS." I ...
by Palerider
Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Best part of conference?
Replies: 10
Views: 569

Re: Best part of conference?

I was a little surprised to hear Nelson state that baptism will get you into the Celestial Kingdom but only temple covenants and marriage would get you "Exaltation" within the Celestial Kingdom.

I've never read that baptism alone, would get you into the CK.
by Palerider
Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Sunday afternoon!!!!
Replies: 66
Views: 1076

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Sunday afternoon!!!!

Good makeup work. Great tan on a 99 year old. Looks surprisingly well for his age given how unforgiving 4K cameras can be. My wife and I both commented immediately that he's been "botoxed" and done fillers. Seriously, they've done something with him. That's pretty vain at his age. You know he had t...
by Palerider
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Sunday afternoon!!!!
Replies: 66
Views: 1076

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Sunday afternoon!!!!

No downside for leaving a cult.
by Palerider
Sun Apr 07, 2024 2:03 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Sunday afternoon!!!!
Replies: 66
Views: 1076

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Sunday afternoon!!!!

It's only "Apostacy" when the church one leaves is actually true....
by Palerider
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:46 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 961

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

AllieOop wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:42 am
Who is conducting if none of the first presidency are there?
(Sorry if I missed that....just catching up now!!)
Oaks said some of the Twelve would be conducting as needed.
by Palerider
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:43 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 961

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Eyring.....

Still sucking up even at his age. Nelson is at home keeping track of who mentions him the most.
by Palerider
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!
Replies: 68
Views: 961

Re: NOMference Spring 2024 Saturday Morning!!!!!

Thank goodness!!!

He's finally done.
by Palerider
Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Returning to the fold
Replies: 7
Views: 274

Re: Returning to the fold

Well....you had me going for a full 10 seconds. I was feeling so badly for you but....."if that makes you happy, then do what you need to do." :|

(Quietly praying, "DON'T DO IT, DON'T DO IT :!: :!: :!: ")

Thank goodness for April fools day....
by Palerider
Sun Mar 31, 2024 7:11 am
Forum: Support
Topic: no NOMfrence?
Replies: 10
Views: 274

Re: no NOMfrence?

I watch.

It's like observing a train wreck in very slow motion.
by Palerider
Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:31 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Doubt
Replies: 8
Views: 451

Re: Doubt

Being a horseman, it's critical to understand horse psychology. It keeps me and the horse as safe as possible in a relatively unsafe activity. After millions of years of evolution horses know to approach a watering hole with extreme caution. Predators hang out there looking for their next meal. Any ...
by Palerider
Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:51 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Apologizing for your faith?
Replies: 9
Views: 476

Re: Apologizing for your faith?

Accidental double post