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by dogbite
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:37 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: My mom
Replies: 4
Views: 177

Re: My mom

There is a scene in On a Sunbeam. That's a genderqueer sci-fi comic about a space construction crew. You can read the whole thing on-line for free or buy it at most bookstores. https://www.onasunbeam.com/ In roughly the middle of Chapter 13, they're leaving a job that went bad and this scene crystal...
by dogbite
Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church supports marriage equality
Replies: 21
Views: 758

Re: Church supports marriage equality

It's about protecting church tax exemption even if they disallow gay marriage on their property or officiation.
by dogbite
Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:45 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Romance
Replies: 8
Views: 270

Re: Romance

Re: the long difficult hikes sharing difficulty can be very romantic, at least in building connection. If you want to hike fast, hike alone. If you want to hike far, hike in groups. The psychology of that holds and if you show concern for the others condition and cooperate, it matters on those tough...
by dogbite
Sun Oct 30, 2022 5:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What to Say to Son
Replies: 11
Views: 459

Re: What to Say to Son

Let your son direct how deep to go.

Start with that you just don't believe anymore and that's OK. If he wants to know more, let him direct on what topics and when. Let him know you'll talk about it as much or as little as he wants.
by dogbite
Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:37 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Reconsidering participation in ministering
Replies: 17
Views: 709

Re: Reconsidering participation in ministering

No matter what you called it, I hated both sides of home teaching/ministering
by dogbite
Sat Oct 22, 2022 3:09 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Fish out of water
Replies: 15
Views: 683

Re: Fish out of water

That was always my experience. The church members really aren't my tribe.
by dogbite
Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:52 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Silly new apologetics site - Show Your Shelf
Replies: 6
Views: 449

Re: Silly new apologetics site - Show Your Shelf

The questions seem to be reframed to be about faith rather than facts as well.
by dogbite
Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:17 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Best evidence that Joseph Smith was just making it all up
Replies: 15
Views: 908

Re: Best evidence that Joseph Smith was just making it all up

Most of what we consider Jewish culture arose after the return to Jerusalem, 2nd temple Judaism. It didn't really exist at the time of Lehi. Monotheism, synagogues, most of the recognized scripture....
by dogbite
Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does the LDS church bring you closer to God?
Replies: 12
Views: 437

Re: Does the LDS church bring you closer to God?

There are assumptions in the question I don't think are in evidence to even begin to answer the question.
by dogbite
Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gospel of Mark vs. Gospel of Luke
Replies: 9
Views: 378

Re: Gospel of Mark vs. Gospel of Luke

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7630730-atonement-theology-is-not-the-pathway-to-life-the-ability is the source of this quote. I've read the book and I like it. It is perhaps a fringe view that sees the gospels as parallel to the the Jewish liturgical calendar. I think it gives a more early Christo...
by dogbite
Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:12 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Gospel of Mark vs. Gospel of Luke
Replies: 9
Views: 378

Re: Gospel of Mark vs. Gospel of Luke

What I take from your points is that Luke really wasn't written by a friend and direct traveler with/follower of Paul as is generally asserted in traditional Christendom
by dogbite
Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Remember When You First Learned Where Babies Come From?
Replies: 1
Views: 137

Re: Remember When You First Learned Where Babies Come From?

I had bi experiences in the 70s.

I remember the public pressure to conform.
by dogbite
Fri Oct 07, 2022 11:59 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What’s wrong with the cross?
Replies: 20
Views: 711

Re: What’s wrong with the cross?

I personally don't wear identifying products. I don't put bumper stickers on my car. I don't wear brand labels splayed across my shirt. Sadly, I can't so easily get around it in footwear. I don't wear jewelry, even watches except rarely. I usually trim off tags on the inside of clothes too, just bec...
by dogbite
Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:37 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What’s wrong with the cross?
Replies: 20
Views: 711

Re: What’s wrong with the cross?

They sometimes speak of the empty cross as symbolic of Jesus victory over death. That makes more sense for the empty tomb IMHO. The empty cross would still be for a dead jesus it seems. Most of the home crucifixes I saw in Germany displayed a tortured suffering Christ on the cross. In Neal Stephenso...
by dogbite
Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?
Replies: 23
Views: 986

Re: Were we all traumatized by being Mormon?

My mission messed with my head. Even though my sister said on my return it wasn't like I had gone at all. It didn't change me. I certainly didn't and don't value the religious study and practice habits she adopted on her mission. But even then I had nightmares for years about being on a mission or f...
by dogbite
Sun Sep 25, 2022 9:13 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Where was the City of Enoch?
Replies: 15
Views: 722

Re: Where was the City of Enoch?

In their imagination
by dogbite
Sat Sep 24, 2022 11:21 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs
Replies: 8
Views: 467

Re: Covenant Confusion: Abraham, dead animals and land grabs

The church's declaration that god is the same through time and the Gospel doesn't change traps them. They have to retcon the scriptures and modern era prophet declarations to make them look superficially consistent. Any mid depth or deeper analysis reveals the holes in the story and the crazy apolog...
by dogbite
Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:30 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Outer Darkness
Replies: 3
Views: 263

Re: Outer Darkness

You have to establish unambiguous right v wrong. Humanity hasn't achieved that yet. Objective morality doesn't exist so far as I can tell.
by dogbite
Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Demythologizing Mormonism
Replies: 12
Views: 648

Re: Demythologizing Mormonism

This is a path that lets members reject any belief they choose leading to universal cafeteria mormonism.

It is at its core a rejection of Divine Command Theory which is simultaneously the only claim to "Truth" the church has. They are rejecting their own authority to make authoritative claims.
by dogbite
Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:40 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Help declining a sacrament meeting talk
Replies: 26
Views: 1125

Re: Help declining a sacrament meeting talk

IMHO it's a mistake to say more than no. Any explanation or excuse you offer is just something for the mormon to overcome. If you offer nothing, they have nothing to comeback with. We want to justify it, but it's a mistake.