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by dogbite
Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Where will you go?
Replies: 12
Views: 192

Re: Where will you go?

Why do I have to go anywhere at all?

But yes, anywhere I want including a comfy chair in my home.
by dogbite
Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:01 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Creator vs Natural Selection
Replies: 15
Views: 429

Re: Creator vs Natural Selection

Give this a read.

Body Ritual Among the Nacirema

https://www-personal.umich.edu/~jlawler ... cirema.PDF
by dogbite
Fri Mar 03, 2023 6:31 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Creator vs Natural Selection
Replies: 15
Views: 429

Re: Creator vs Natural Selection

We find objects and places. But we don't know what it meant to them, or what they were for. They'll often theorize religion but we don't have evidence for knowing. We're just projecting from our own behavior.
by dogbite
Thu Mar 02, 2023 4:15 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Creator vs Natural Selection
Replies: 15
Views: 429

Re: Creator vs Natural Selection

Most civilizations we have no idea what they believed, if anything. They didn't leave records. I agree that religion has been an organizing principle for humans. But the same theory you use for deciding the search for god is a necessity can be used to say that every civilization that believed in a g...
by dogbite
Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Do LDS give their Soul to the Church, or to Jesus?
Replies: 6
Views: 199

Re: Do LDS give their Soul to the Church, or to Jesus?

I don't think it's that binary. Mormons come in many varieties from zealots to social members.

I think if you change soul to percent money donations they each make you could score their religiosity fairly well.
by dogbite
Tue Feb 28, 2023 3:15 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ancient religion vs. modern religion
Replies: 19
Views: 430

Re: Ancient religion vs. modern religion

To me they're all forms of in and out group thinking. It's ok, even proper to kill the out group. All the atrocities are against the out group.

Atheism doesn't address grouping at all. It's just that some use it for that purpose.

Religion is explicitly about being the in group.
by dogbite
Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ancient religion vs. modern religion
Replies: 19
Views: 430

Re: Ancient religion vs. modern religion

The reason I disconnect atheism from the atrocity is because atheism itself isn't about any particular moral value. It's about one's belief in God. To associate atrocity to atheism but downplay it in theism is essentially a divine command theory claim, that god is the source of morality. What God co...
by dogbite
Tue Feb 28, 2023 10:34 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ancient religion vs. modern religion
Replies: 19
Views: 430

Re: Ancient religion vs. modern religion

My point about Scandinavian Countries is that they are very low belief cultures. They don't have religion at the core the of their government and operation though they may still have state churches mostly for historic tradition, As to the atrocities places at the feet of atheistic regimes, is the at...
by dogbite
Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ancient religion vs. modern religion
Replies: 19
Views: 430

Re: Ancient religion vs. modern religion

More modern societies based on atheism seem to be authoritarian in order to stop religious practice. I don't want to see that. I hope that we are shifting to a society that values science and inquiry as well as compassion and respect. Some days I fear that we are just becoming a set of tribes tryin...
by dogbite
Mon Feb 27, 2023 8:45 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ancient religion vs. modern religion
Replies: 19
Views: 430

Re: Ancient religion vs. modern religion

Why does it need to be replaced? People can get on with other activities and organizations of interest in the freed up time and money
by dogbite
Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:42 am
Forum: Support
Topic: New Order Spirituality
Replies: 12
Views: 358

Re: New Order Spirituality

Spiritually, I pursue nothing.

I am refreshed from time in nature, which one might construe as spiritual. I do not but wouldn't dispute those who do.
by dogbite
Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:30 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Adam Ondi Ahman
Replies: 8
Views: 351

Re: Adam Ondi Ahman

As far as the LDS go, they lack the Temple lot and are unlikely to get it. So nothing to worry about as to JC second coming. https://churchofjesuschristtemples.org/independence-temple/ Prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ, a magnificent edifice—the New Jerusalem Temple—will be erected on the l...
by dogbite
Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: How the church has changed....and stayed the same.
Replies: 2
Views: 192

Re: How the church has changed....and stayed the same.

Scouts was the only part of my church experience I liked. And now it's gone. I get that it's very much scoutmaster roulette for if you had a good experience or not. I had a great scoutmaster and the parents supported him. I tried to emulate his practices when I was scoutmaster but I couldn't get the...
by dogbite
Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:09 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: the Seed of Secrecy
Replies: 6
Views: 323

Re: the Seed of Secrecy

Secrecy is the core of religion. It's special knowledge that makes you superior, in-the-know, and special above others.Chosen, select, elect. And also milk before meat. It is also the same way that conspiracy theories work playing into the same human cognitive shortcuts and in/out group thinking hum...
by dogbite
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why does Scripture become irrelavant?
Replies: 10
Views: 281

Re: Why does Scripture become irrelavant?

It becomes irrelevant because it's not really scripture. Time and distance make that clearer.
by dogbite
Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Ever wished you would just cease to be?
Replies: 11
Views: 352

Re: Ever wished you would just cease to be?

That's what I expect to happen. It seems to be what the Romans thought, or at least lots of them. Their gravestones have the epitaph

NF, F, NS, NC

non fui, fui, non sum, non curo

I was not, I was, I am not, I don't care
by dogbite
Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:39 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Does living together make sense?
Replies: 11
Views: 334

Re: Does living together make sense?

Paleriders post illustrates part of what I meant by there's not an absolute scale. I'll be putting words in palerider's mouth so if he disagrees with what I say please correct me. I don't want to misrepresent you here. Palerider seems to be advocating that a successful relationship is permanent, lon...
by dogbite
Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Does living together make sense?
Replies: 11
Views: 334

Re: Does living together make sense?

For the question to make sense, you have to figure out the scale on which "makes sense" is measured. There is no one absolute objective scale for that in my opinion. For a given relationship, it might make sense, if you are prepared for possible outcomes of both success and failure. And have prepare...
by dogbite
Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Noah and the Flood
Replies: 19
Views: 750

Re: Noah and the Flood

I had put the bible in the allegorical category prior to my faith crisis. But it was the attestation of Noah in modern revealed scripture that triggered the collapse.