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- Thu Nov 28, 2024 8:57 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: How do we know the Church has repented?
- Replies: 4
- Views: 815
Re: How do we know the Church has repented?
I don't expect church to repent. That is to expect a particular consistent framework that has never been in evidence. Rather it relies on divine command theory. It's never wrong in the moment. It can look to be in the wrong but that is from human perspective only. And DCT is not a path I desire to ...
- Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:33 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: We were taught Heavenly Father is an exalted man and...
- Replies: 6
- Views: 718
Re: We were taught Heavenly Father is an exalted man and...
Yes we discussed his belief. He grew up Italian Catholic. But was essentially atheist. When he had a kid he wanted a church experience but not theology per se and so his family were unitarians ( I mispoke the first time). He described the practice as like being in a cathedral and the light of truth ...
- Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:17 am
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: We were taught Heavenly Father is an exalted man and...
- Replies: 6
- Views: 718
Re: We were taught Heavenly Father is an exalted man and...
I was aware of those ideas before my belief broke.. I had a universalist friend. I personally don't see any point to it. It just seems like believing to believe for the sake of belief alone. I don't see any point or meanng in that. Certainly everyone is not wired the same and I am not apparently ...
- Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:45 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Saturday Sabbath
- Replies: 28
- Views: 12022
Re: Saturday Sabbath
There could just as easily be 9 days per week with Uranus and Neptune added, Those aren't visible to the naked eye or things would surely have been different as you note. It could be any number of course. It's arbitrary. But our historical path in the west sources heavily from Rome. We used the ...
- Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:50 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Saturday Sabbath
- Replies: 28
- Views: 12022
Re: Saturday Sabbath
I was looking into the origin of the 7 day week. There are two parallel developments. The Jewish with which we're all familiar. Like so much of the old testament, it's origin seems to be much later than the old testament itself would indicate. No earlier than the early roman period. https://www.ucl ...
- Thu May 23, 2024 7:13 pm
- Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
- Topic: Respect
- Replies: 14
- Views: 7850
Re: Respect
They demand respect because they have a position and title. Even though they have not acted now or the past in ways that earn the respect they claim to simply deserve.
- Fri May 03, 2024 10:19 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: How to respond to believing spouse?
- Replies: 28
- Views: 15541
Re: How to respond to believing spouse?
This is the child's event, not the parents. Do what it takes to serve the child's interest, even down to skipping baptism if so chosen. As to your part, if baptism is chosen, do what the church says you can as a non-believer. If that's nothing, then there's the answer. If that changes your child's ...
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:04 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 1089
- Views: 5286865
Re: Keeping up with Trump
You're always asking for a source, evidence for our statements.
Your interpretation is conspiracy without evidence. And that's worthless. Your turn to put to our shut up.
Your interpretation is conspiracy without evidence. And that's worthless. Your turn to put to our shut up.
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:15 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 1089
- Views: 5286865
Re: Keeping up with Trump
My brother does his real estate speculation the same way. He loans to the spec builders with the land as his collateral. And a bonus at sale. He has no business as such. He does have a contract/loan form. And families often lend money to other members. Can you prove it wasn't a loan? You know those ...
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:41 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 1089
- Views: 5286865
Re: Keeping up with Trump
Yes, the lack of fraud, on Bidens part
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:27 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: Keeping up with Trump
- Replies: 1089
- Views: 5286865
Re: Keeping up with Trump
Based on Joe Biden's financial statements he's made public, he doesn't own any businesses. For 2020, he seemed to have a more limited income stream. https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2020/05/15/5-things-we-learned-from-joe-bidens-new-financial-disclosure/?sh=9b178e732d78 discusses incomes ...
- Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:08 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 60
- Views: 187040
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Sustainable energy is now cheaper than fossil fuels. False. Absolutely False. So, so, so, so, so, soooooo soooooo soooooo false. If and when that is true - there will be no fossil fuel production or consumption for energy. The claim that sustainable energy is now cheaper may apply to a specific ...
- Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:49 am
- Forum: Staying Faithful
- Topic: Testimonies and Idol Worship
- Replies: 6
- Views: 26048
Re: Testimonies and Idol Worship
The idea that any given noun, verb, action, idea or some such is holy or sacred is idol worship. If a church, or book or robe, or shroud is holy, it partakes in the divine, but is not itself god(s). It is just an object. A holy object. That is the definition of an idol.
- Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:49 pm
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Setting & maintaining a temple boundary
- Replies: 19
- Views: 13170
Re: Setting & maintaining a temple boundary
You have to weigh it out for yourself and your relationship. I Had been openly non-temple attender while active and holding a recommend. I told the interviewers I found it weird. And they had no answer except to encourage me to attend. I had told my wife this as well. One time she said she wanted to ...
- Sun Nov 19, 2023 12:24 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
- Replies: 60
- Views: 187040
Re: The Church of Climate Change in these Latter Days
Are you saying there is a proper number of humans higher or lower? Are you saying that individual humans have a responsibility to reproduce? Is there a problem or benefit with more or fewer humans you want to achieve or avoid? Even with China explicitly trying to counter your premise, its ...
- Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:16 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1098525
Re: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
However Trump has demonstrated disregard for anyone who disagrees with his views. He's demonstrated disregard for immigrants, people of color, LGBTQ, women, Christians, Muslims, Jews, veterans and other groups. Christian dis https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-secretly-mocks ...
- Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:55 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1098525
Re: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
Great. So we agree. Trump did not say he would imprison any who opposed him. That never happened. Agreed? [/quote] No. It would be naive to make such a statement. Rather we have no available record that Trump has uttered those exact words in that exact order. However Trump has demonstrated ...
- Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:44 pm
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1098525
Re: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
How very mormon of you. You can't take his words at plain meaning. You have to interpret it. Do I need a seer stone too? I'm not going to defend Biden. I don't like him. My point is Trump is proven fraudster, sex abuser and has no regard for other people. His actions and words prove it. Exact ...
- Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:53 am
- Forum: The Coffee Shop
- Topic: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
- Replies: 37
- Views: 1098525
Re: How America Has Been Let Down By The Republicans
How very mormon of you. You can't take his words at plain meaning. You have to interpret it. Do I need a seer stone too?
I'm not going to defend Biden. I don't like him. My point is Trump is proven fraudster, sex abuser and has no regard for other people. His actions and words prove it.
I'm not going to defend Biden. I don't like him. My point is Trump is proven fraudster, sex abuser and has no regard for other people. His actions and words prove it.
- Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:21 am
- Forum: Support
- Topic: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
- Replies: 11
- Views: 6429
Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali Joins Christianity
Does civilization need religion? I suspect it ultimately might, whatever my feelings about the truth claims. I don't think civilization itself needs religion. Elements with the civilizations likely do. There are certainly atheists who feel that they need a social structure to replace religion for ...