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by no1saint
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church fraud investigation
Replies: 14
Views: 1661

Re: Church fraud investigation

I certainly hope the Australian government won't just look the other way, like the US government seems to do when religions are involved. It seems like a church here just makes a statement, threatens lawsuits, and MAYBE pays a fine, and then it's business as usual. In the current US political clima...
by no1saint
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church fraud investigation
Replies: 14
Views: 1661

Re: Church fraud investigation

I certainly hope the Australian government won't just look the other way, like the US government seems to do when religions are involved. It seems like a church here just makes a statement, threatens lawsuits, and MAYBE pays a fine, and then it's business as usual. In the current US political clima...
by no1saint
Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:05 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: End game - the great rebrand
Replies: 16
Views: 3410

Re: End game - the great rebrand

MY POV: I think it will be a continuation of trying to align the LDS Church more and more with and appease conservative American Evangelicals. It will continue to have a fundamentalist view of scriptures. While it will maintain the temple and the essentiality of a living prophet, the idea of eterna...
by no1saint
Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: End game - the great rebrand
Replies: 16
Views: 3410

End game - the great rebrand

Mormonism has undergone some pretty massive leaps in branding both internally and externally. The last great one was under GBH where the walls built around leadership were torn down and he employed the Jewish PR firm to rebrand and start the mainstreaming of LDS INC. This was after a period of stagn...
by no1saint
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:28 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church
Replies: 10
Views: 2685

Re: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church

moksha wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:33 am
no1saint wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:38 am
Interestingly the Church is yet to officially respond.
I imagine they are busy figuring out the most strategic placing of donations and calculating the minimum expenditure needed to be effective.
They are in a difficult position as any official ATO investigation would be retrospective.
by no1saint
Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church
Replies: 10
Views: 2685

Re: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church

It seems clear to me that the Church has skirted the spirit of the Australian and Canadian tax laws. However, I suspect the Church can escape any penalty via strategically placed donations to the proper Authorities. This action would likely fall within the rubric of the Lying for the Lord Doctrine ...
by no1saint
Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:07 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church
Replies: 10
Views: 2685

Re: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church

The church is run by businessmen who are very aggressive in their interpretations of law. Who can forget that Russell Ballard led a company that lied to the SEC and was punished. These are the same practices they bring to church administration. How common are investigations into churches in Austral...
by no1saint
Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church
Replies: 10
Views: 2685

Re: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church

This is exactly the sneeky, sleepy stuff the church does to avoid paying taxes. I bet all of the tithing slips in Australia still say they are paying tithing rather donating to a charity. The church just sets up a shell corporation as a charity and then funnels all of the tithing to that….then the ...
by no1saint
Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church
Replies: 10
Views: 2685

Dodgy Australian tax dealings by the Church

The Church is under scrutiny for dodgy tax practises that enabled members to claim tithing back as a tax deduction. The opposition parties have called for the ATO to investigate. It is an election year and this could interesting. https://www.theage.com.au/national/mormons-inc-church-accused-of-multi...
by no1saint
Sat Apr 02, 2022 7:15 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Current policy, maybe doctrine, about women being sealed to more than one man
Replies: 11
Views: 2365

Re: Current policy, maybe doctrine, about women being sealed to more than one man

That's a surprise to me. My understanding was that a woman can only be sealed to one man, period. I knew a couple who were planning to get married. She went to the temple for her endowment and also had her dead husband's work done. They said, "hey while you're here you might as well get sealed to y...
by no1saint
Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:06 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Updated list of Humble Braggage
Replies: 7
Views: 2164

Re: Updated list of Humble Braggage

I think it was Rasband who declared that he was one of the "weak and foolish" called to serve God. Of course he had a 7 figure salary before being a GA. Elder Rasband does not actually consider himself either work or foolish, he is as full of himself as they come. He was being pretty disingenuous w...
by no1saint
Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church assets transferred to GA families
Replies: 7
Views: 2377

Re: Church assets transferred to GA families

Hagoth wrote:
Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:51 pm
Our old friend Hermey is the expert on this stuff. I have reached out to him via email. Hopefully he'll have some interesting insights.
Cheers mate.
by no1saint
Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:07 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church assets transferred to GA families
Replies: 7
Views: 2377

Re: Church assets transferred to GA families

A New Name wrote:
Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:38 am
Try asking this on reddit/r/mormon. You'll get a much larger audience.
Great idea mate, I have just done that now.
by no1saint
Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:57 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church assets transferred to GA families
Replies: 7
Views: 2377

Church assets transferred to GA families

A while ago, someone posted information regarding Church assets that has been transferred into their wives or childrens names. One example I can remember is the land on which the eagle gate or gateway apartments sits was in the name of Marjorie Hinckley. Does anyone have the details or links to this...
by no1saint
Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:38 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Battleground Africa
Replies: 20
Views: 4855

Re: Battleground Africa

Looks like the Church is way behind the rest of the pack. I wonder why? 685 million Christians in Africa at the moment and the Church claims only 318,000.

The Church with its American flavour, predominantly white leadership and MO is not an appealing product.
by no1saint
Sun Jan 30, 2022 6:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Why was God so hard on Joseph Smith?
Replies: 6
Views: 1819

Re: Why was God so hard on Joseph Smith?

Plausible (in his mind at least) deniability.
by no1saint
Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church aid and Tonga
Replies: 15
Views: 3693

Re: Church aid and Tonga

@red Ryder

Keep in mind the Pacific Area Office and MTC is in New Zealand so the operating costs associated with those would need to come out of the local budget.
by no1saint
Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church aid and Tonga
Replies: 15
Views: 3693

Re: Church aid and Tonga

No1saint, What is the church currently building over there? Any new buildings or growth? Page 10 cash flow statement shows 71M spent on property, plant, equipment. The PPE footnote shows the capital additions which would include any capitalized maintenance etc. ETA: I went back and read the financi...
by no1saint
Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:23 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church aid and Tonga
Replies: 15
Views: 3693

Re: Church aid and Tonga

https://register.charities.govt.nz/Document/DownloadPublicDocument?documentId=a60c4171-dff3-46f4-87a8-b49b3746f49d&searchId=87452872-f74b-eb11-b43a-00155d6b7730 No1saint, this link doesn't seem to be working. I've tried in two browsers. Try this one that takes you to their page. Then you can click ...