Search found 114 matches

by SaidNobody
Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:42 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Child Custody in the Celestial Kingdom
Replies: 3
Views: 322

Re: Child Custody in the Celestial Kingdom

The concept of "eternal" sort of makes the idea of "Child" non-point. But, accepting that a child belonging to two parents that make it to the CK, ideals of ownership do not survive that layer of consciousness. The oneness of glory, doesn't allow for someone to "own" another person. You can love who...
by SaidNobody
Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Polygamy and gender ratios
Replies: 17
Views: 1046

Re: Polygamy and gender ratios

Just to through in my two-pence. The scriptures are very bi-polar on this issue. One minute they are telling people to avoid polygamy, the next they are saying the scriptures are calling them the chosen ones. Being chosen isn't all that it is cracked up to be. The sacrificial virgin is chosen, or th...
by SaidNobody
Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:18 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Non-religious God
Replies: 62
Views: 1955

Re: Non-religious God

Oh, and one other thing she mentioned which made sense is that often “bad” is the means and opportunity for “good” to be revealed. Reminded me of “opposition in all things.” God - being infinite - has infinit interpretations, but I think one summary may be the idea of yin and yang. What we forget, ...
by SaidNobody
Wed Oct 25, 2017 1:49 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: There Is No Plan
Replies: 37
Views: 2622

Re: There Is No Plan

I'm still not sure there is no plan. I am muddling up plan with purpose. I am still hopeful for an afterlife, and there being a reason for our existence. However, I find the lack of mormon plan to be quite freeing - when the doo doo hits the fan, I no longer find myself thinking, this is god's will...
by SaidNobody
Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:27 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Warren vs Gandhi
Replies: 11
Views: 1156

Re: Warren vs Gandhi

This is one I still have problems shaking hands with. I knew about Gandhi. Have known about five years. As you say, though, wisdom is wisdom. Should we regard the source. Not an easy answer. Two quotes I spout regularly: 80% of life is just showing up. --Woody Allen (frequently attributed to him) E...
by SaidNobody
Tue Oct 24, 2017 10:58 am
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Warren vs Gandhi
Replies: 11
Views: 1156

Re: Warren vs Gandhi

This is one I still have problems shaking hands with. I knew about Gandhi. Have known about five years. As you say, though, wisdom is wisdom. Should we regard the source. Not an easy answer. Two quotes I spout regularly: 80% of life is just showing up. --Woody Allen (frequently attributed to him) E...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Warren vs Gandhi
Replies: 11
Views: 1156

Re: Warren vs Gandhi

So it could be argued that this same type of thing is why JS was successful in his wooing of women. Although I'd peg Gandhi higher on the original wisdom ranking than JS because of how much JS borrowed from existing sources. Not exactly fair. Gandhi had 100 of advanced technology and 5000 years of ...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:32 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Non-religious God
Replies: 62
Views: 1955

Re: Non-religious God

Alas, I went through that too. An older brother(s) decided to make me cry. The one that used a 2x4 actually did, but I survived several without crying, leaving me purple from head to toe. Good times.... But, they were more messed up then I was. I actually help stop a long chain of pain. Pain isn't s...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:30 am
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: There Is No Plan
Replies: 37
Views: 2622

Re: There Is No Plan

You found your avatar! I was thinking about this topic, today. My coworker has another health problem. She'll probably have another surgery. She's had conditions and diseases non-stop for the last two years. She's trying to figure out what God wants her to learn so this can stop. What I truly have ...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:07 am
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Monopoly and King and Serfs
Replies: 8
Views: 1069

Re: Monopoly and King and Serfs

Reminds me of Shakespeare's quote, "there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so." I have yet to read much about quantum physics but I do find it interesting - and mind-boggling. So, from your understanding - Quantuam physics theorizes that the universe is static - NOT changing? Bu...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 23, 2017 8:22 am
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Warren vs Gandhi
Replies: 11
Views: 1156

Re: Warren vs Gandhi

Never knew that crap on Gandhi but it does not surprise me. My point is, even though I was warned off of "hero worship" since childhood, I've always respected Gandhi's wisdom. And even before I ran across this article, I was mildly aware there was something weird about his female followers. Women f...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:17 am
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Warren vs Gandhi
Replies: 11
Views: 1156

Warren vs Gandhi

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/thrill-of-the-chaste-the-truth-about-gandhis-sex-life-1937411.html This is an interesting take on a similar but different situation. It seems that a mostly accepted spiritual leader might have been a prev. Gandhi had many inappropriate r...
by SaidNobody
Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:30 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: There Is No Plan
Replies: 37
Views: 2622

Re: There Is No Plan

The difference between plan and design is debatable. I think both words imply intelligent intent. Many prominent quantum physicists acknowledge intelligent structure. The structure of the universe is pretty cool. Definitely smarter than anything we could think up. But, it seems unlikely that somethi...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:19 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Non-religious God
Replies: 62
Views: 1955

Re: Non-religious God

Give It Time wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:06 pm
I'm going to put some of the money I spend on therapy to use and let you know that, at this time, I have nothing new to say on the subject.

I'm not giving you the cold shoulder. ;) Just nothing more to say, right now.
I'm not even going to take that personal. I challenge the most sane.
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:27 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Non-religious God
Replies: 62
Views: 1955

Re: Non-religious God

Good points. My willingness to believe in God is in part about this flow of pain as if it were water. Emotion isn't just expression, it flows as if in it's own space. It is as if stuff moves around us, effects us, but isn't exactly in the same space. There is a physical component to it like magneti...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:43 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A God of pleading not for me
Replies: 22
Views: 1231

Re: A God of pleading not for me

Very interesting Saidnobody. I agree, Meaning is intensely personal. I guess I'd push back on the idea that God, a being most religious people would claim exists outside of their own mind, can only be defined FOR you BY you. I've heard other enlightened spiritual people say the same sort of thing b...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:42 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A God of pleading not for me
Replies: 22
Views: 1231

Re: A God of pleading not for me

Very interesting Saidnobody. I agree, Meaning is intensely personal. I guess I'd push back on the idea that God, a being most religious people would claim exists outside of their own mind, can only be defined FOR you BY you. I've heard other enlightened spiritual people say the same sort of thing b...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:31 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Treatment of gays
Replies: 8
Views: 550

Re: Treatment of gays

I am angry at the way "good" Mormons are taught to treat gay family members. My daughter in law is hurting because her family of origin are ass hats. alas, come on now. Read these two sentence. I personally think it is a misnomer that we can speak behind people's back one way and not have it come o...
by SaidNobody
Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:37 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Non-religious God
Replies: 62
Views: 1955

Re: Non-religious God

Sometimes they do it, because they want to be large and in charge and abuse is an effective way to get things done, in the short term. There are also abusers who are just plain sadistic and enjoy watching people suffer and they feel no empathy because they are on the ASPD spectrum. Where does my co...
by SaidNobody
Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:15 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Non-religious God
Replies: 62
Views: 1955

Re: Non-religious God

That's fine. You make a good point. It's like giving someone the cold shoulder is an abuse tactic, but if I were to talk to the person at whom I'm angry, I would definitely say some things we both regret. Or I simply don't have the words, at the time, to say them. This is true, but compassion plays...