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by Corsair
Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:53 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Book of Mormon Clarification
Replies: 11
Views: 212

Re: Book of Mormon Clarification

This will hardly end the discussion, but here is a way to help solidify a position from a real, archaeological standpoint. This is from a brilliant Patheos discussion thread between William Hamblin, faithful LDS apologist and Philip Jenkins, Distinguished Professor of History at Baylor University. D...
by Corsair
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:52 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Set the hook deep
Replies: 6
Views: 180

Re: Set the hook deep

Glad to hear after all these years the Institute parking lot continues to be a safe haven for cheap Mormon ASU students! The parking permits are costly and the institute parking has always been the loophole. I skipped the whole institute thing and would park offsite and ride a bike. It felt normal ...
by Corsair
Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:50 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Aaronic priesthood boys can now baptize in the temple
Replies: 43
Views: 474

Re: Aaronic priesthood boys can now baptize in the temple

I have a hard time believing the net effect of that will be positive for the church. Sure, but It is positive for the church right now. My Facebook page lit up with all the excited believers anticipating new devotion from 16-18 year old boys. The excitement for the girls feels a little bit forced, ...
by Corsair
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:05 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Aaronic priesthood boys can now baptize in the temple
Replies: 43
Views: 474

Re: Aaronic priesthood boys can now baptize in the temple

I am going to actually volunteer to assist with the next youth temple night in my ward. It's going to be amusing to see the young men jockeying to perform the baptisms of some of the more popular young women. I'm sure that the issues will eventually work themselves out, but this transition period wi...
by Corsair
Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:24 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 5 simple tips to prevent homosexuality
Replies: 25
Views: 438

Re: 5 simple tips to prevent homosexuality

Jeffret wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:02 am
Newsweek reports on it: MASTURBATION WILL MAKE YOU GAY, WARNS LEAKED MORMON CHURCH DOCUMENT

The Newsweek article doesn't make the Mormon church look very good.
This is just begging for a late night talk show comedian to comment on this.
by Corsair
Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:51 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Aaronic priesthood boys can now baptize in the temple
Replies: 43
Views: 474

Aaronic priesthood boys can now baptize in the temple

Mormon Church Changes Rules for Temple Baptisms, Allowing Male Youth to Officiate in Ordinances This is from the First Presidency letter dated 14 December 2017: Under the direction of the temple presidency, young women (ages 12-18) with a limited-use temple recommend may assist with baptistry assig...
by Corsair
Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: ad hominem -- AHH,...I get it
Replies: 7
Views: 188

Re: ad hominem -- AHH,...I get it

deacon blues wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:29 am
I feel your pain. Ad Hominem and circular reasoning are frustrating. But........it could be worse. What if you had lived during the Spanish Inquisition, or in modern Arabia. :?
Or 19th century Utah...

Or 21st century FLDS Utah...
by Corsair
Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:36 am
Forum: Support
Topic: 5 simple tips to prevent homosexuality
Replies: 25
Views: 438

Re: 5 simple tips to prevent homosexuality

Is there any point asking for the LDS church to show that their suggestions actually have caused any specific person to stop being gay? There are cases where someone "experiencing Same Sex Attraction" has come to exist in a heteronormative marriage faithfully in the LDS church. But this does not str...
by Corsair
Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A Simple World View
Replies: 16
Views: 221

Re: A Simple World View

Great suggestions so far. My first real exposure to this sort of thing was - A demon haunted world by Carl Sagan. I was pretty ticked I did not find him sooner, he's fantastic. Demon Haunted World continues to be a fantastic book that I reread every few years. The information in it is starting to b...
by Corsair
Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:02 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Grief, Depression, and NOM - the best ward around
Replies: 11
Views: 225

Re: Grief, Depression, and NOM - the best ward around

I'll let my bishop know that I have been paying tithing in my NOM ward. Then I might try and fellowship him to attend.
by Corsair
Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:58 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Is Mormon Satan anachronistic?
Replies: 26
Views: 376

Re: Is Mormon Satan anachronistic?

Satan makes an appearance early in the book of Job , but he has a very different character. He's the "Devil's Advocate" and it's like he's making a bar bet with God. The authorship of the Book of Job is probably an Israelite between the 7th and 4th centuries BC. But the character of Satan in Job is...
by Corsair
Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:14 am
Forum: Support
Topic: "Have you heard what Brother Bednar said?"
Replies: 18
Views: 382

Re: "Have you heard what Brother Bednar said?"

Third: The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet. Isn't he dead? All we need is a recent pronouncement or restatement of the idea that we should compare prophetic pronouncements with what's in the standard works, and then we can forget about what Elder Benson said. Yes, but his...
by Corsair
Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: "Have you heard what Brother Bednar said?"
Replies: 18
Views: 382

Re: "Have you heard what Brother Bednar said?"

Sometimes you might be tempted to think as I did from time to time in my youth: “The way things are going, the world’s going to be over with. The end of the world is going to come before I get to where I should be.” Not so! You can look forward to doing it right—getting married, having a family, se...
by Corsair
Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Reasons for keeping a TR
Replies: 11
Views: 321

Re: Reasons for keeping a TR

I have a current TR, which I got in order to remain in the overclass. I'm having serious second thoughts now. The LDS church forces its members to choose between being Übermensch and being Untermensch. Having seen what the Übermensch are capable of, I think I'd rather be Untermensch. I understand w...
by Corsair
Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:43 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: John Hyde Jun...."Mormonism"
Replies: 12
Views: 276

Re: John Hyde Jun...."Mormonism"

The PDF shows the title page with a publish date of 1857.
by Corsair
Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:42 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Smart people and Adam and Eve
Replies: 8
Views: 186

Re: Smart people and Adam and Eve

I am with you on this, but there are ways to think about Adam and Eve that don't quickly result in nonsense. A lot of Intelligent Design people will accept evolution and a 4.5 billion year old earth featuring some kind of Adam and Eve as specified as the first humans with souls. Along with resisting...
by Corsair
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:56 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Timothy Leary, the Holy Ghost and a new kind of religion
Replies: 16
Views: 282

Re: Timothy Leary, the Holy Ghost and a new kind of religion

If you can imagine alcohol as a moonlit boat ride on a peaceful river, psychedelics are more like a roller coaster ride through an MC Escher drawing, but with rainbow tornadoes, that happens outside of the universe. In sufficient doses it comes with all of the joy (and potential terror) that you wo...
by Corsair
Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Understanding Mormon Apologetics
Replies: 7
Views: 121

Re: Understanding Mormon Apologetics

I like these non-denominational responses against many Cristian apologetic arguments, could be applied to any religion or pseudo science. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2013/08/the-one-bias-that-cripples-every-christian-apologetic-argument/ They’re not defeated by reason because they we...
by Corsair
Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:35 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Further redefining of miracles
Replies: 7
Views: 193

Re: Further redefining of miracles

nehor90210 wrote:
Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:51 pm
What caused the bar to be placed so low for what constitutes a miracle? Personally, I blame the advent of Miracle Whip.
Leaving the one true Mayonnaise for Miracle Whip will often cheapen the miracle of the one true sandwich.
by Corsair
Thu Dec 07, 2017 9:27 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Creative Mormon Mythology
Replies: 46
Views: 3015

Re: Creative Mormon Mythology

The second song of the evening was the Cabbage Rolls and Coffee Polka performed by the Schmenge Brothers, which had become a number one hit on the Lawrence Welk Show. Yosh and Stan Schmenge finished singing the second verse about how they loved cabbage rolls and coffee when, Elder Stirling H. Holtz...