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by Corsair
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:44 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The JST was done using a biblical commentary
Replies: 26
Views: 721

Re: The JST was done using a biblical commentary

Just accept it. If what we already know about Joseph Smith won’t persuade most members to see him for the fraud he was, nothing ever will. This discovery about the JST doesn’t surprise me, but I also know it’s impact on members’ belief in Joseph Smith will be negligible. I do agree with you, but I'...
by Corsair
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:39 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: And then reality set in...
Replies: 7
Views: 201

Re: And then reality set in...

Yup, this. Correlating the correlated. This is the modern version of scripture canonization. We largely have a defined set of acceptable talks and scripture that we can safely reference in a church setting. Anything new will slowly come from the top and older or unacceptable topics will be slowly f...
by Corsair
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Reasons for not criticizing church leaders
Replies: 9
Views: 99

Re: Reasons for not criticizing church leaders

Keep in mind that in the FP press conference, Oaks contradicted Bednar. He didn't criticize Bednar directly of course, but he did state that only when the words are affirmed by council, by all of the apostles, are they actually the word and actions of god and obtain the status and weight of scriptu...
by Corsair
Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:27 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: In which spouseman has gone to the store to buy new underwear.
Replies: 5
Views: 85

Re: In which spouseman has gone to the store to buy new underwear.

How do you associate briefs with total freedom? Of course, nothing presents the most freedom, but briefs have a decided lack of freedom. Total freedom would be going commando under a kilt. That might not fly with the dress code at my office or my ward. That said, the eternal debate o of briefs vs. ...
by Corsair
Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:56 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tapatalk for iPhone?
Replies: 15
Views: 335

Re: Tapatalk for iPhone?

I guess this might be the appropriate thread to ask this question, but what is the truest handheld communication device? Have any of you gone into the woods to pray about it, and if so what is the answer? Clearly it is "Stone in the Hat" personal Inspiration device. If you don't have one in your po...
by Corsair
Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A reason for faith by Laura Hales
Replies: 35
Views: 1218

Re: A reason for faith by Laura Hales

Time for another installment. Next up, the Book of Abraham. By the Kerry Muhlestein. He is an Egyptologist you know. . . . . The conclusion is basically to say that the Book of Abraham defies all explanation and is thus a miracle of revelation. I disagree with that assessment. I think it is easily ...
by Corsair
Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:24 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Mixed Faith Marriage Workbook
Replies: 6
Views: 132

Re: Mixed Faith Marriage Workbook

I can report that our marriage is stronger and better for the therapy however the elephant is still in the room . We just don't talk about it in detail anymore because we were always at an impasse and didn't agree. So we agreed to disagree and still respect each other. This is pretty accurate on th...
by Corsair
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Unorthodox Mormon Facebook Groups
Replies: 8
Views: 251

Re: Unorthodox Mormon Facebook Groups

I don't look at Facebook very often and never post, but I did join a few groups including Mormon Stories and the Phoenix Open Mormons group. I also managed to join a couple of pro-LDS apologetics groups with the hope that something interesting might be stated in favor of the church. This has not occ...
by Corsair
Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:53 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Whole30 Diet
Replies: 5
Views: 93

Re: Whole30 Diet

My wife did Whole 30 as part of treating some food allergies she developed over the past few years. I can certainly testify of how this has worked for her. At this point she eats almost no sugar, milk, or bread. She is admittedly bored with most salads, but she continues to eat them at least once or...
by Corsair
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New presidency same old church
Replies: 15
Views: 312

Re: New presidency same old church

Only god can save the church now, and if god knows nothing of Mormonism, then its only a matter of time. Fruit may fall and sprout new seeds, but only a miracle can save tree. There's only so much that can be done once the aged have intentionally set themselves onto an ice flow and refuse to eat. E...
by Corsair
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:13 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Prediction for next two apostles
Replies: 6
Views: 100

Re: Prediction for next two apostles

Given the make-up of the new first presidency, then I'm predicting L. Whitney Clayton and Tad Callister. There's literally no one else I think Oaks and Nelson would want to appoint more. These guys have been hatchet men for a decade, taking heat for every controversial task Nelson and Oaks gave the...
by Corsair
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:03 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New FP discuss apostasy
Replies: 14
Views: 423

Re: New FP discuss apostasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hx_CwU8GrY In this clip from the press conference Dan Rascon asks Pres. Nelson about apostasy. He seems to think there are two reasons people might leave the chrurch: Word of Wisdom and being offended. Oaks steps in with how the church couldn't possibly be more tran...
by Corsair
Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello and Who am I?
Replies: 11
Views: 175

Re: Hello and Who am I?

We are glad you found us here. Good luck going forward with a faith transition.
by Corsair
Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:19 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Uchtdorf is out, Oaks is in...
Replies: 50
Views: 1513

Re: Uchtdorf is out, Oaks is in...

For those keeping score at home, here is the current list of apostles and their ages: Ballard, 89 Holland, 77 Uchtdorf, 77 Bednar, 65 Cook, 77 Christopherson, 72 Anderson, 66 Rasband, 66 Stevenson, 62 Renlund, 65 In order of seniority, Oaks is first in line after Nelson, obviously. Eyring would be b...
by Corsair
Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Russ Nelson announces
Replies: 17
Views: 643

Re: Russ Nelson announces

When my "prophesy" comes true then I expect tithing from you heathens. :lol: :lol: Bummer, no tithing for me. The last time a counselor was not retained was Hugh B. Brown back in the 60s. He was also considered a liberal, especially with his agitation for extending the priesthood to all men.
by Corsair
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:29 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tapatalk for iPhone?
Replies: 15
Views: 335

Re: Tapatalk for iPhone?

Captain Salty, I think you have to register the NOM forum on the tapatalk site. Forum owners should start from Tapatalk.com > Get Started. At the bottom of the page you can find links to download the forum system plug-in. From the download page, there will be step-by-step instructions on how to ins...
by Corsair
Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Bednar's latest tithing story
Replies: 33
Views: 754

Re: Elder Bednar's latest tithing story

Dad and tithing. He wasn't truly repentant because he wasn't humble. He believed he could command god, when really it's the other way around. The man showed no lasting change, as soon as the wedding was over he'd go right back to not paying tithing and being inactive. That's not repentance. Kid and...
by Corsair
Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Russ Nelson announces
Replies: 17
Views: 643

Re: Russ Nelson announces

Yesterday while with a group of TBM family engaging in a lively discussion of Monson and Nelson I killed the conversation by saying,"I think it is a bit weird to call a press conference to announce yourself as the new prophet." Mic drop.... crickets. Now on to what's on TV................ :| Press ...
by Corsair
Mon Jan 15, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Tapatalk for iPhone?
Replies: 15
Views: 335

Re: Tapatalk for iPhone?

How is it supposed to work? Do you open up newordermormon.net on the browser on your phone then have tapatalk show up as an option there?
by Corsair
Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Elder Bednar's latest tithing story
Replies: 33
Views: 754

Re: Elder Bednar's latest tithing story

Is this a preview of what life in the Church will be like when Elder Bednar becomes president? It goes without saying that the Dad in the story, who did everything he thought he had to do up to and including a hefty monetary fine to attend his child’s wedding, is the hero of this story. The jerk wh...