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So... My sister's wedding came and went. In the end I decided to abstain from attending the ceremony. I had a few conversations with family members and friends here on NOM. I was back an forth on the decision (since I still hold a recommend). I made up my mind to go. But the decision felt wrong for ...

Keewon wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:32 pm

Now, how to say that in one sentence is another thing.

Yeah, this. I am convinced, but that seems to be quite meaningless to my family.

Thanks Keewon.

I have gathered that you are in the same state as me, so pretty Mormon, but I do see some people leaving and wonder why you think you have to move? Thanks StarbucksMom, DW's entire social network is the church. Friends, neighbors, the kids carpool our entire support system is wrapped up in the chur...

Welcome Bluebird! Tithing probably falls into the leadership roulette category. If you're not attending much, then this may be determined by the Bishop's personal feelings about you and your spouse. There is no formal process of inquiry for tithing settlement, but occasionally I've seen horror stori...

Hey Slavereeno, sorry I'm late to the post. Hang in there through all of this, it can be exhausting telling everyone. Hopefully there is little fallout and you can get back to life. How is your DS handling it? Thanks Linked, well he is working through the post mission emotions and this certainly ha...

Yeah, I gave in to Stan and lost my testimony all because I was weak in my scripture reading and home teaching. Let this be a lesson to all you kids, read your scriptures, say your prayers, and pray that the Devil, yeah even muscled and mascara man himself won’t drag you down to the depths of hell!...

This is what they mean when they say there is no dignified way to leave the church. Either you commit major sin and are vilified, or you commit no sin and just leave. Either way, you become the deceived elect, the fallen, and a danger to anyone who might otherwise have an in-depth conversation with...

The church really promotes cowardice by not equating unwanted and covert interference with being a sinful behavior. The only exception would be in cases where the law is being broken by a non-family member, but even then you tell someone in authority. You don't confront the person directly. I am SO...

jfro18 wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:56 pm

Anyway - you're going to become a project now and your wife will be another project that the ward will try to keep from getting infected with your disbelief.

That's going to be a nightmare. I think I may just continue to get a recommend and keep the ward leaders guessing...

I love this.

Ugh - so sorry. That is one of the side effects that just sucks... when you know people in church (and family) are going behind your back to talk to your spouse about your disaffection. I remember one of the other YW counselors dropped by to drop off a "cheer up" plate of fruit and cookies to DW an...

That pattern is hard to watch become reality. Especially when your spouse has so much friendship to offer. My wife might as well be a church widow. The ward treats her that way even though I’ve been sitting right beside her every week. It’s frustrating to live this continually never ending experien...

When I told her I wanted to talk about it she got a look on her face I haven't seen for a while, a look of anger, hatred, and despair. So at least I know how she really feels about dealing with the real me. She was kind enough to sit through it, though at the end she basically told me it's no big d...

But then there are those of us who are still giving.

My stupidity knows no bounds.

Its a relief in some ways and kind of stressful in others. Dear Godzilla, ain't that relief/stress dichotomy the absolute Truth™? As one who has likely done everything wrong during my transition; And contemplated and worried about the "coming out" part of it for way too many years... The stress par...

Update:

The disclosures are done now. DW and I are just tying to live with the fallout. DS is home and we gave him a big hug and a few days before dropping the bomb.

My parents and siblings and children are all in the know. Its a relief in some ways and kind of stressful in others.

Apparently there will be some other adults out there with me. Nobody from my generation but some endowed nonetheless. My son is home, so nice to have him back. I will be happy when he knows where I stand as far as church goes, but I hate to do this to him, he is so so happy to be home. I feel like ...

To me, from a "mainstream Christian" viewpoint I believe that to be true. I don't believe that following the Mormon church is going to condemn you to hell... sure they have false prophets, but I don't believe it makes any sense in the grand scheme of the atonement to punish those who were good, hon...

This whole thread is great.

Apparently there will be some other adults out there with me. Nobody from my generation but some endowed nonetheless. My son is home, so nice to have him back. I will be happy when he knows where I stand as far as church goes, but I hate to do this to him, he is so so happy to be home. I feel like t...