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by Hagoth
Fri May 10, 2024 10:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Work for Neanderthal Dead
Replies: 6
Views: 181

Re: Work for Neanderthal Dead

The easy answer is that the Official Children of God™ line began with Adam and Eve 6000 years ago. All of those other beings are part of the big mystery of God that we won't learn about in this life. I'm gonna say the eventual answer, if they were forced to come up with one, would be something like:...
by Hagoth
Fri May 10, 2024 10:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Spaulding Theory?
Replies: 7
Views: 393

Re: New Spaulding Theory?

I think it's much more likely snippets of some of these things picked up at Dartmouth by Hyrum were mentioned at family gatherings or in talking to JS and made themselves into the BOM. I think you're right, and we should see it as an illustration of how much the Kirtchner/John Smith/Spaulding world...
by Hagoth
Wed May 01, 2024 9:07 am
Forum: Support
Topic: How to respond to believing spouse?
Replies: 21
Views: 425

Re: How to respond to believing spouse?

Linked wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:47 pm
Ultimately I recognized that they were going to be baptized regardless of what I did, and I would prefer that they have that memory with me instead of someone else.
If that's the case with you too, Stuck, I says dunk him and then take him out for ice cream. Both activities will make people happy.
by Hagoth
Wed May 01, 2024 7:06 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Psychics & Ballards
Replies: 7
Views: 136

Re: Psychics & Ballards

We have Mormon friends here who have a Mormon "seeing holistic healer" who, over the phone, diagnosed the herbal deficiency that was causing the wife's hip problem from 110 miles away. "She's amazing", said the wife. I'm seeing more of this lately. Our RS president has an "energy healer." I'm wonde...
by Hagoth
Wed May 01, 2024 6:53 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Psychics & Ballards
Replies: 7
Views: 136

Re: Psychics & Ballards

moksha wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:51 pm
Mormons just believe, so what's wrong with having a personal psychic?
His gift of discernment led him to accept Janet Russon, not Russel Nelson, as a more reliable source of revelation for his own life. Gotta love it.
by Hagoth
Wed May 01, 2024 6:47 am
Forum: Support
Topic: We’re back! Thanks Captain Salty!
Replies: 23
Views: 1070

Re: We’re back! Thanks Captain Salty!

Has any of this been due to Defense of the Faith internet attacks? I keep wondering if it's some sort of attack, but I don't think there's any direct evidence of that. Whatever the reason, we are looking for a new home for NOM. Not only is this platform unstable, it has become too expensive. Thanks...
by Hagoth
Wed May 01, 2024 6:41 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Today was a hard day !
Replies: 19
Views: 499

Re: Today was a hard day !

Thanks Alas. Certainly one of the most hurtful things I have experienced in life was for my wife to tell me she doesn't want me if I'm not a member. I think this was mean, deliberate , and very manipulating. To me it was akin to the use of a nuclear weapon. When you don't believe The Truth™ it hurt...
by Hagoth
Mon Apr 29, 2024 5:46 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Today was a hard day !
Replies: 19
Views: 499

Re: Today was a hard day !

Earbuds and eyelid painting. https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-pi9-IM67_0I%2FV-T6G0HgEOI%2FAAAAAAAADGg%2FYaI4qjxlD1gy0lRoeM2oo5grKq8s1-CBQCLcB%2Fs1600%2Fglazed-eyes.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=3a3e05c5cfb3961a21c7a984b3e3d54538cf69f236f071a6e84f5e1bcdc24f7f&ipo=...
by Hagoth
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Spaulding Theory?
Replies: 7
Views: 393

New Spaulding Theory?

There's an interesting interview on the Mormon.ish podcast, Episode 147 with Lars Nielson about his research into another possible inspiration or even origin for the Book of Mormon. Anybody else listen to this? Lars is the brother of the Ensign Peak whistleblower and actually wrote most of the docum...
by Hagoth
Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:01 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 994
Views: 2271601

Re: Keeping up with Trump

Trump's defense that a president cannot be held accountable for any actions is incredibly lazy and transparent. If he took two seconds to think about what he's saying he would see that it also applies to Biden, Obama, Clinton...
by Hagoth
Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 2748

Re: A New Theistic Argument

And of course there's no guarantee that if there's a creator the creator is good, or that the being humans interact with (if any) is the creator. Could just be like that Twilight Zone episode where the astronaut happens upon the tiny people and decides to make them worship him. Or the H. P. Lovecra...
by Hagoth
Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:58 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism
Replies: 9
Views: 736

Re: Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism

Humans can be good about denying human learning. I know of this one faith tradition headed by a heart surgeon. Despite this man's extensive medical training he still denies evolution or at least for his faith's members who were descended from Adam and Eve in Missouri rather than that heathen Pre-Ad...
by Hagoth
Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:43 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Resignation help
Replies: 4
Views: 248

Re: Resignation help

I found this, but I have no idea if they will honor it:

https://www.exmormon.org/remove.htm
by Hagoth
Mon Apr 15, 2024 6:38 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood DoorDash
Replies: 3
Views: 329

Re: Priesthood DoorDash

Palerider wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:15 pm
I call it "arrogance without malice".
Love it!
by Hagoth
Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Priesthood DoorDash
Replies: 3
Views: 329

Priesthood DoorDash

A couple of priests showed up at our door today to bring my wife the sacrament. I was not home and I was not happy that the ward took it upon themselves to decide that she, without any sort of request or invitation, needed a worthy priesthood holder (pimply teenager) to compensate for my dereliction...
by Hagoth
Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:51 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 2748

Re: A New Theistic Argument

So, when we project onto God our own helplessness at stopping all that evil that atheists project onto God and say that therefore God does not exist…..maybe we are missing the point. Maybe God wants *us* to stop all that suffering, not just throw our hands up in the air and yell at God for not doin...
by Hagoth
Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:44 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: A New Theistic Argument
Replies: 15
Views: 2748

Re: A New Theistic Argument

Reminds me of a song: What if god was one of us, just a slob like one of us, just a stranger on the bus trying to make his way home? If God is the unwanted child who was dropped on his head at birth and can't get anything right, then we, and all his other creations, must be reflections of his cognit...
by Hagoth
Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The new throat-slitting
Replies: 8
Views: 634

Re: The new throat-slitting

Here's another way to look at the covenants. We have established that they are made to earthly authorities, not to supernatural entities. In order to enter the temple you had to declare that you are honest in your dealings with your fellowmen. So did our exalted leaders. But they are monumental exam...
by Hagoth
Wed Apr 10, 2024 4:08 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: The new throat-slitting
Replies: 8
Views: 634

Re: The new throat-slitting

Covenants in the church are of the "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" variety. In this life the covenant is one-sided. 100% of the action of the covenant is performed by us in this life. God isn't on the hook until a theoretical next life. We're expected to give hamburger after ham...
by Hagoth
Wed Apr 10, 2024 3:54 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Best part of conference?
Replies: 10
Views: 710

Re: Best part of conference?

I was a little surprised to hear Nelson state that baptism will get you into the Celestial Kingdom but only temple covenants and marriage would get you "Exaltation" within the Celestial Kingdom. I've never read that baptism alone, would get you into the CK. I think this is the standard teaching. Ba...