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by Hagoth
Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:36 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1029
Views: 4697322

Re: Keeping up with Trump

I listened to as much of the RNC and Trump's talk as I could stand. The only message was that everything in America was wonderful under Trump, and that everything would be perfect again the moment he is elected. He will solve all of the problems day one. He had no strategies, no policies, no actual ...
by Hagoth
Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Evangelicals
Replies: 4
Views: 50

Re: Evangelicals

I haven't heard any hell fire and brimstone. That was another thing I found interesting about the church I attended. Unlike the Evangelical televangelists I have watched, or the revivals I attended in the Deep South, there was nothing threatening or apocalyptic about the message. In fact, you could...
by Hagoth
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:49 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Evangelicals
Replies: 4
Views: 50

Evangelicals

Evangelicals. What do they really teach and believe? I went to an evangelical megachurch not long ago. The had very high production value, with a great band and impressive multimedia show on multiple giant screens. The minister was very polished and well groomed. There were a lot of mentions of the ...
by Hagoth
Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:55 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Russell's Death Spiral
Replies: 9
Views: 912

Re: Russell's Death Spiral

I've been travelling and haven't been following NOM. Yesterday when I finally sat down to take a look I saw this thread, not realizing that it was one I started and thought it was going to be about Nelson's current medical condition.
by Hagoth
Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a true history of England
Replies: 6
Views: 383

Re: Monty Python and the Holy Grail is a true history of England

Imagine if a powerful, shrewd, and very wealthy church assigned it's university professors and paid apologists to come up with a body of work that defends the veracity of The Holy Grail to create the appearance of historicity. Then we wouldn't have to bother ourselves with questions about it's truth...
by Hagoth
Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:49 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1029
Views: 4697322

Re: Keeping up with Trump

I don't know if you hear it in your news sources but they found the same stuff and biden's garage. And they should hold Biden accountable. But Trump's circumstances are very different. He lied about having the documents and he denied multiple requests to return them. They are OUR property, not his....
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:47 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Russell's Death Spiral
Replies: 9
Views: 912

Russell's Death Spiral

Y'all know Nelson's story about the flaming death spiral he survived on a flight to St. George. I decided to look up the FAA report on this terrifying calamity and found it, of all places, on FAIR: "The FAA’s summary of the incident involving President Nelson’s plane reads: Second incident occurred ...
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 04, 2024 6:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: My Big Plan for Eternity
Replies: 6
Views: 788

My Big Plan for Eternity

This is a spin-off of Deacon's second class citizen thread. According to LDS leaders: I will not make it to the CK due to coffee drinking, insufficient tithing payment, and lackluster meeting attendance. Joseph Smith purportedly said the Telestial Kingdom is so wonderful that you would, if given a g...
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:30 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Righteous Corecion
Replies: 14
Views: 1525

Re: Righteous Corecion

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iiknvBvVRG8&pp=ygUcTW9ybW9uIGZyZWUgYWdlbmN5IGNvdW5zZWxvcg%3D%3D Imagine how different things would be if people just understood John Dehlin's simple advice: "Beware of any human that tells you what God wants for you in your life. That's you job to figure out, not their...
by Hagoth
Thu Jul 04, 2024 5:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: More Second Class Saints....
Replies: 8
Views: 721

Re: More Second Class Saints....

So, in the highest kingdom you get to be like Yahweh, creating countless planets and then populating each with billions of kids. Then you spend most of your time raging about how disappointed you are in them and punishing them for not constantly praising you and serving men who claim, without eviden...
by Hagoth
Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:06 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Righteous Corecion
Replies: 14
Views: 1525

Re: Righteous Corecion

Coercion can occur when a leader compels a child using religious language or authority that implies a spiritual obligation or duty , permission, sanction, punishment, justification, intimidation, or threat. This is contrary to the Savior’s teaching that individuals should lead “only by persuasion, ...
by Hagoth
Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:19 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Keeping up with Trump
Replies: 1029
Views: 4697322

Re: Keeping up with Trump

It is absolutely ridiculous, bordering on terrifying, that these are the only two choices we have in a country of hundreds of millions of people, at least half of which would probably be less dangerous options. I look at in terms of who will do the least damage. Given that criterion, a Joe comatose ...
by Hagoth
Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:46 am
Forum: Support
Topic: More Second Class Saints....
Replies: 8
Views: 721

Re: More Second Class Saints....

The church divides us into all kinds of classes. Consider

Second Anointed
Recommend holders
Subhumans
by Hagoth
Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:02 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Purpose of the Book of Mormon
Replies: 7
Views: 535

Re: Purpose of the Book of Mormon

Yes, written specifically for the Lamanites, but there is not a single person on earth that a church leader could identify as a Lamanite. The essay pretty much tells us to give up any hope of that. Here's another thing. Nephi chopped off Laban's head to prevent his descendants from dwindling in unbe...
by Hagoth
Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:02 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T
Replies: 12
Views: 739

Re: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T

Or we could let go of all these made-up ideas and seek happiness for everyone we know in the here and now. Or the Prophet could make up a new made-up idea and say, "by the power vested in me, your families WILL be together forever, and there is no power in heaven or earth that can tear them asunder...
by Hagoth
Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T
Replies: 12
Views: 739

Re: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T

This version is so much more honest than the primary version. The reality is that the church is like a mob boss, “nice family you got there. It’d be a shame if anything happened to it.” So you pay the mob boss 10% of everything to keep your family from being taken away. Yup, extortion. Yeah, but it...
by Hagoth
Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:40 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Louisiana Requires Ten Commandments in Classrooms
Replies: 8
Views: 462

Re: Louisiana Requires Ten Commandments in Classrooms

I have my popcorn ready for this one. Should be good. I’m sure the church of Satan will step up and request they be included in schools as well. for your consideration, the Seven Tenets of the Satanic Temple: I One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance ...
by Hagoth
Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Louisiana Requires Ten Commandments in Classrooms
Replies: 8
Views: 462

Louisiana Requires Ten Commandments in Classrooms

From today's NY Times: Louisiana Requires All Public Classrooms to Display Ten Commandments A law signed by Gov. Jeff Landry on Wednesday makes the state the only one with such a mandate. Critics have vowed to mount a constitutional challenge. Gov. Jeff Landry signed legislation on Wednesday requiri...
by Hagoth
Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:28 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T
Replies: 12
Views: 739

Re: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T

It just occurred to me that the sad reality, according to Mormon beliefs, is that LDS families might be the only ones that CAN'T be together forever. Everyone who died without learning the LDS gospel is given a second chance via temple work. Those who were raised in the church don't get a second cha...
by Hagoth
Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:56 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T
Replies: 12
Views: 739

Re: Families CAN be together forever also means they CAN'T

They set up this empty seat at the table scenario as the worst thing that could happen to you and then do everything they can to make sure it happens. And then pile guilt and shame on you for allowing it to happen to your family. But it sure keeps you eating our of their hand, doesn't it? I cringe w...