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by felixfabulous
Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
Replies: 97
Views: 3642

Re: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?

My friend who told me about the rumored changes on Monday just went and confirmed the changes posted elsewhere.
by felixfabulous
Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?
Replies: 97
Views: 3642

Re: The long rumored temple changes are happening now?

I heard these rumors on Monday and have a friend going today to check it out. At this point, I do not think the changes are being rolled out today as spelled out in the rumor or yesterday in Nauvoo (that seems really suspicious that the Nauvoo temple would have been open yesterday, all the other tem...
by felixfabulous
Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What did Jesus look like?
Replies: 34
Views: 725

Re: What did Jesus look like?

didn't really have a response to that because it stirred up a bad past memory of an encounter I had with a born again Christian who hammered me with the "You Mormons think that God had sex with Mary." That was a WTF moment. If you have not seen this, you need to. The Mary part is a gem. https://www...
by felixfabulous
Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:06 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Harmony Pennsylvania and Joseph's Seer Ability
Replies: 6
Views: 292

Harmony Pennsylvania and Joseph's Seer Ability

At my ward yesterday we had a couple speak who had just returned from a mission to the Harmony, Pennsylvania Church site. I was fascinated to hear the new narrative about the Book of Mormon translation. In a nutshell: God guided Joseph to find a seer stone. He was able to develop his spiritual gift ...
by felixfabulous
Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 2nd Commandment
Replies: 19
Views: 577

Re: 2nd Commandment

Just This Guy wrote:Do you happen to have a citation for this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_116_ ... te_note-22

It looks like it comes from Rough Stone Rolling
by felixfabulous
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Return of the Book of Abraham
Replies: 25
Views: 982

Re: The Return of the Book of Abraham

I'm surprised this isn't trotted out more in the Book of Abraham discussion. This is Josiah Quincy's experience with seeing the papyrus in Nauvoo: "And now come with me," said the prophet, "and I will show you the curiosities." So saying, he led the way to a lower room, where sat a venerable and res...
by felixfabulous
Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:11 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 2nd Commandment
Replies: 19
Views: 577

Re: 2nd Commandment

The words "Lord" and "God" in the Bible are English placeholders for the Hebrew names for Jehovah (Lord) and Elohim (God). So, using the name God is using a title or placeholder, not the actual name of God. My kids were watching a Studio C about funny greek god names, like the god of toilet paper. I...
by felixfabulous
Fri Nov 30, 2018 12:20 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Visit to the Tanners' Bookstore
Replies: 11
Views: 484

Re: Visit to the Tanners' Bookstore

No, Sandra wasn't there. There was one other employee at the store and someone else in the back. It's in the living room of an old house, across the street from the Salt Lake Bees stadium. I have always wondered about the provenance of the grainy black and white photos of the Smith family magical pa...
by felixfabulous
Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Visit to the Tanners' Bookstore
Replies: 11
Views: 484

Visit to the Tanners' Bookstore

I had a conference in Salt Lake and stopped by the infamous Tanner bookstore. People like Mark Hofmann, Brent Metcalf and Thomas Ferguson spent time here discussing problems in Church history. I grew up hearing about the Tanners as the most infamous anti-Mormons. I thought the Mormon Stories intervi...
by felixfabulous
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Friday Fun: Who Wrote the Book of Mormon (and How)?
Replies: 21
Views: 971

Re: Friday Fun: Who Wrote the Book of Mormon (and How)?

I was totally on board with the Melakanos/Trebas theory that it was a Smith Family project. I started reading Dan Vogel's biography of Joseph Smith and think he brings up some good points that poke some holes in that theory. As Alas points out, so much of the BOM is meant to address the internal pro...
by felixfabulous
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:24 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Melonakos Interview with John Dehlin
Replies: 40
Views: 1701

Re: Melonakos Interview with John Dehlin

I think Evangelical Christians like Melonakos run into the same problems with literal truth claims. I think we misinterpret what the Bible actually is, which I would say is an ancient tribe trying to explain the divine. The Bible incorporates creation myths, exaggerated conquest stories and an inven...
by felixfabulous
Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:18 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Melonakos Interview with John Dehlin
Replies: 40
Views: 1701

Re: Melonakos Interview with John Dehlin

I thought the material was fascinating. But, I thought it was a hard interview to follow. I feel like I know a fair amount about early Mormon history and was lost during parts. Melonakos seems brilliant but very scatterbrained and kept trying to blurt out facts or left thoughts hanging in mid-air. S...
by felixfabulous
Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Restoration of Christianity?
Replies: 19
Views: 750

Re: Restoration of Christianity?

I enjoy perusing the more liberal Christian literature (Marcus Borg, Richard Rohr, Rob Bell) and listen to some podcasts (Robcast, Bible for Normal People). The general consensus among scholars seems to be: 1. Jesus lived and died a good Jew, meaning he did not set up a Church, based on what is in t...
by felixfabulous
Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:00 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church History Topics
Replies: 12
Views: 787

Church History Topics

Has anyone seen this on the Church website or Gospel Library app? https://www.lds.org/languages/eng/content/history/topics/martin-harriss-consultations-with-scholars?lang=eng. If you look on the left, there are all the topics. A lot of them appear to be a direct response to Mormon Think. It's intere...
by felixfabulous
Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Stone of a Greenish Caste . . .
Replies: 8
Views: 545

Re: Stone of a Greenish Caste . . .

I'll have to check out that book. To me, there just seem to be too many people who saw some kind of physical object covered and quite a few people who handled something to have not been anything resembling plates. I think Dan Vogel makes a compelling case that they were made of tin and Joseph disloc...
by felixfabulous
Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Stone of a Greenish Caste . . .
Replies: 8
Views: 545

Stone of a Greenish Caste . . .

I'm curious on your theories about the golden plates. There is one quote that seems very credible and seems to throw a curve ball in a lot of theories: Josiah Stowell 7 Nov, 1832 Josiah Stowel, being by me sworn, saith... that Smith, the prisoner, went in the night, and brought the Bible, (as Smith ...
by felixfabulous
Thu May 17, 2018 12:56 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The Lucy Code
Replies: 8
Views: 638

Re: The Lucy Code

Interesting theory, I enjoyed watching it. I think that Joseph memorizing pages and using the rock/hat for a dramatic delivery is very likely. I think it's interesting how closely Joseph and Hyrum worked together on everything, very likely that he contributed. I also think one of the most interestin...
by felixfabulous
Tue May 15, 2018 7:38 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: 1830 Interview with Joseph Smith Senior
Replies: 6
Views: 456

1830 Interview with Joseph Smith Senior

I was listening to a podcast on LDS Perspectives with Don Bradley about the 116 pages. Much of what he discussed was from an 1830 interview (published in 1870) with JS Senior. I looked it up and was blown away. Very interesting magical view of the coming forth of the BOM and the BOM story. This may ...
by felixfabulous
Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Garments Question
Replies: 19
Views: 1159

Re: Garments Question

I've asked this question to a few people, one person (a temple worker) asked the Temple President. Some believers were honest and said it's not a covenant but the Church was concerned that people weren't wearing their garments all the time and put it in there (which I think is honest) and others tri...