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by Raylan Givens
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Modesty Requirements for Youth Conference
Replies: 10
Views: 268

Re: Modesty Requirements for Youth Conference

Great. All the extra laundry detergent from the t-shirts to foam up the pool. Sorry, I used to do pool maintenance. Lotions, and soaps suck. But seriously, have the stake leaders forgotten what the Church used to look like? When it was fun and the ward did stuff? I bet they didn't wear t-shirts. Did...
by Raylan Givens
Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:45 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Mass disclosure
Replies: 51
Views: 1006

Re: Mass disclosure

That's a tough one. Hopefully, through the pain/anxiety you can be the first smiling face they see. That will have to be enough. I can see my wonderful FIL's face as we exited the temple. The love was very apparent, any contention was quickly forgotten. Hopefully the mission has brought maturity, an...
by Raylan Givens
Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is NOM going the direction of some other online groups?
Replies: 50
Views: 1840

Re: Is NOM going the direction of some other online groups?

This feels akin to the other recent trend we were having a discussion on, the one about if the Youth are actually leaving in droves. Could the slow down on NOM, the fact that most all of us that may have started off on the early days of NOM, have now evolved our faith transitions to the end of the ...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Liberal/ Conservative Dance
Replies: 15
Views: 617

Re: Liberal/ Conservative Dance

I think this is a great topic. I have become way more liberal on some issues, and way more conservative on others. I used to be down the line kind of person. I am a registered D, but think more like a classic R most of the time. Maybe I am finally accepting the doctrine of getting off the fence and ...
by Raylan Givens
Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Joseph's advise on treatment of dissenters?
Replies: 8
Views: 416

Re: Joseph's advise on treatment of dissenters?

JS seemed so manic in how he treated people: You're out! Then your in. Then you're out again! What you want back in? Absolutely, I will do you a favor by bringing you back in (just swear loyalty to me). I do have to say, it is much easier then to get back in when JS was around. Now there are countle...
by Raylan Givens
Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The church officially ends its affiliation with the BSA in just over 8 months, but....
Replies: 15
Views: 680

Re: The church officially ends its affiliation with the BSA in just over 8 months, but....

I don’t see the problem. The scoutmaster will be converted to the priesthood camping expert with the new system This is exactly what was being discussed in our bishopric meeting recently. People were complaining about how leadership was continuing to fill positions in a dying program, and the bisho...
by Raylan Givens
Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is the church really free falling ?
Replies: 17
Views: 942

Re: Is the church really free falling ?

The financials are not available to us. I suspect that cash flow is declining, but assets are high enough to cover them for now. I think the shortfall in the next generation of leadership is going to hit much harder than any shortfall in tithing. I live on the east bench of Salt Lake City. I agree ...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What do you make of John C Bennett?
Replies: 17
Views: 662

Re: What do you make of John C Bennett?

I'm pretty sure Bennett was familiar with "spiritual wifery" before he knew of Joseph or came to Nauvoo. The rumors of Joseph's plural marriage doctrines may have even drawn Bennett there. He already had quite a reputation as being a man of ill repute and Joseph was warned about him as he was on hi...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Senator Mike "Jar Jar Binks" Lee
Replies: 12
Views: 546

Re: Senator Mike "Jar Jar Binks" Lee

Looks like Lee was doing a send-up pointed at AOC, (who really needs to return to Junior high) but Lee (not my favorite senator) needs to know that a little sarcasm goes a long, long way.... especially with his delivery. I agree about AOC, not sure why everyone gets so excited about her? Lots of so...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Senator Mike "Jar Jar Binks" Lee
Replies: 12
Views: 546

Re: Senator Mike "Jar Jar Binks" Lee

Well, there was something McNaughtonesque about Reagan riding on a flag carrying Velociraptor with a semi-automatic. No kidding! Baffles me. I wish someone would have brought posters and presented on the following things after Lee was done, "and we are supposed to take you seriously? When you devou...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:27 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: WoW pisses me off!
Replies: 38
Views: 1547

Re: WoW pisses me off!

Coffee put my autoimmune disease into remission. Wine seems to be making my smile lines vanish. I drink both most days. I think my whole adult life would have been better with them in my life. I haven't been able to get into coffee, even with time. Wine and beer are okay- but don't excite me. I fol...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:24 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: WoW pisses me off!
Replies: 38
Views: 1547

Re: WoW pisses me off!

My opinion is that the WoW became commandment because BY realized the people would.probably starve or be bankrupt if they kept importing (coffee, tea, tobacco and alcohol) into the valley. It did save me money. My roommates would live off Ramen and Pb&j after a long weekend. It was more about $$$ an...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:18 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: FAIR is FOUL
Replies: 20
Views: 749

Re: FAIR is FOUL

I wonder if there's any way of knowing how many of the contributors to FAIR eventually tumble down the rabbit hole themselves and either move on or have to disengage from apologetics to avoid the need to move on. I bet there aren't many. The FAIR contributors must be an internet savvy crowd, and if...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Packing Heat
Replies: 21
Views: 1075

Re: Packing Heat

I have a concealed carry permit, but I rarely carry at church. A lot of times having a gun on you can be more of a liability than an asset, so you have to be careful and know what you're doing. I like to have the option to carry, and I like having some training about the laws and all... often it's ...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:05 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Damnation to my Soul
Replies: 7
Views: 423

Re: Damnation to my Soul

Sitting in church, this morning, I took the sacrament for the first time since 2011 :twisted: . I took the smallest piece I could. Maybe it will be less damning. I’ll probably stop for a G&T on the way home. That should cleans the evil. Haha. I thought I would feel guilty, but this whole church gam...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What do you say to someone who is dying?
Replies: 11
Views: 488

Re: What do you say to someone who is dying?

It would be hard to have a specific amount of time left to live though I think... e.g. 10-12 years. I think that would give me anxiety. I would feel like I had to really carpe diem and make every minute count and even though we should all do that anyway and live our best life each day, the truth is...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Baptized DS
Replies: 6
Views: 287

Re: Baptized DS

This was very nice. I love that everyone came and showed him how much they care for him. I think he will remember that. Sundays are for bike rides and skiing in my opinion. Sounds like a good weekend. My daughter turns eight next week. I am sure there will be secret conversations about why she is no...
by Raylan Givens
Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:31 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What was your first NOM thought?
Replies: 46
Views: 2002

Re: What was your first NOM thought?

Reuben wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:41 pm
At the temple: "Now, what church do I belong to, again?"

Got used to it, though.
Temple was my undoing too

DW's, this last year. Trying to explain Easter to our little kids, and watching their expressions...she felt like she was describing a zombie.
by Raylan Givens
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:29 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: General Konference Predictions
Replies: 90
Views: 4867

Re: General Konference Predictions

I hope the most exciting thing in conference is announcing the youth programs and that's it. Overall, super boring, so the constant excitement my sister posts about will die down.
by Raylan Givens
Tue Mar 26, 2019 7:17 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Ward Council is Closed (Minded)
Replies: 50
Views: 2556

Re: Ward Council is Closed (Minded)

"My testimony is like a rock, Chuck! Thanks for asking!" - Maybe that's what that one person wanted to hear you say. "How is your testimony?" is such a bad question. It is beyond personal, if the answer is anything other than "great!" then you can't really answer because it is really a yes or no qu...