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by Raylan Givens
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:47 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: do I want to catch the monkey?
Replies: 33
Views: 3185

Re: do I want to catch the monkey?

Wow. This brought up feelings. My shelf crashed years before My wife’s. Her heavy shelf item wasn’t about the Church being true. It was about God in general. Very different than mine. She then moved onto the Church and is surgically dissecting it. She is now resigned. She decided one day, and just d...
by Raylan Givens
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Netflix Messiah
Replies: 2
Views: 106

Netflix Messiah

I am about 3/4 the way through the Messiah on Netflix. I find it very compelling and well shot and acted. It is produced by Mark Burnett (big time evangelical), but so far quite gripping.
by Raylan Givens
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?
Replies: 17
Views: 494

Re: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?

I think the story is that the note basically said that the members in Nauvoo were saying they felt abandoned that he left that defenseless and that they thought he was a coward. I don't know how reliable sources are on that - I need to see if I can find those for you. I've heard the same. I believe...
by Raylan Givens
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Extended Family Relationships
Replies: 14
Views: 779

Re: Extended Family Relationships

My wife was told on a very public Facebook post by my SIL. That she has a bad feeling in our home and that it is because we are now lacking the spirit. She also let me wife know she was disappointed in how we are raising our adopted daughter with a severe mood disorder. “You guys are just too strict...
by Raylan Givens
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Hymns
Replies: 16
Views: 555

Re: New Hymns

I stand all amazed at the funds Nelson earned from me Confused at the interest and dividends kept from me I tremble to know that no funds were tax quantified That for me a tither I paid them and sacrificed Oh, it is profitable that Nelson cares for me Enough to tithe from me! Oh, it is profitable, ...
by Raylan Givens
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Hymns
Replies: 16
Views: 555

Re: New Hymns

Praise to the men who commune with accountants
by Raylan Givens
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why would you want to help the needy ?
Replies: 16
Views: 690

Re: Why would you want to help the needy ?

I wonder if your request would get more traction now.

My BIL who is very hardcore TBM mentioned If he is ever made BP, knowing about the 100 billion, he will help as many people as he can financially or with other needs (medical etc.)
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Are You Spiritual
Replies: 25
Views: 872

Re: Are You Spiritual

I don’t think you are alone. I feel the “spirit” more by watching Steve Hart’s segment on CBS Sunday Morning than I ever did in Sacrament meeting.
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel saves a baby!
Replies: 9
Views: 523

Re: Bill Reel saves a baby!

This one made my week. Nice Bill!

That man can dig, open him up a spot as the token apostate on the All Region Church Volleyball team.
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Just Be Kind for a Month
Replies: 3
Views: 175

Re: Just Be Kind for a Month

I would hope the goal is always kindness and patience for our spouse. Could you imagine someone getting up, “i decided to be a dick for a month to my husband/wife to see what would happen...”

I do agree it is weird to think about things from the other side of the coin.
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint
Replies: 166
Views: 6181

Re: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint

What has me confused is why the church needs billions at the second coming? Why not feed the hungry now? Clean water? Vaccinate the entire world? But that’s not the way corporations work. Jesus will send a massive text message letting everyone know he is cashing out his options. Get that luxury jet...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint
Replies: 166
Views: 6181

Re: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint

I bet it is all “technically” legal and just skirts on the right side of the line. The Church is pretty damn smart with money. They hired the best accounting firms to diversify (hide) funds. So even if you knock down one wall, there are a dozen others you have to take out. This is another example wh...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: My son is posting anti information on FB now.
Replies: 27
Views: 907

Re: My son is posting anti information on FB now.

It's happened. My other son posted a comment that basically said pres. Oaks is a d i c k, with a emoji of a zucchini. I can't bear this, I'm sorry. I texted the son that is anti and asked him to take it down, but if he didn't I would understand. I feel helpless now. My kids don't mince words and th...
by Raylan Givens
Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Catholic church donates 10% of its donations to charity
Replies: 3
Views: 210

Re: Catholic church donates 10% of its donations to charity

And that’s with actually paying TRAINED staff and buildings that exist to help the greater community. I didn’t see someone scanning bar codes at the last cathedral I attended. I wouldn’t be surprised to see that 10% number shrinking with all the lawsuits piling up in New York in New Jersey with all ...
by Raylan Givens
Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:00 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Going to grow a pair
Replies: 10
Views: 592

Re: Going to grow a pair

Well in a strange twist of events , she caved !!!!!! I guess I gave a little too. I get to have my coffee at work keep my apostate views including posting on NOM but go to church with her , Temple occasionally and we dont discuss church Bullshit !!! Pretty much the way Corsair has it !!!! She says ...
by Raylan Givens
Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:55 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Weirdness of the LDS faithful
Replies: 21
Views: 973

Re: Weirdness of the LDS faithful

Does anyone like me grow tired of all the weird stuff in our church ? I am referring to stuff like Temple worship, underwear, masonic rituals etc etc cant we just be like most evangelicals ???? Too much weirdness that you are not told about as an investigator. Mormonism is weird on the outside. Eva...
by Raylan Givens
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Turning Christains into Atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 797

Re: Turning Christains into Atheists

He says, And that’s the greatest irony of it all; that the very Evangelicals who’ve spent that last 50 years in this country demonizing those who reject Jesus—are now the single most compelling reason for them to do so. They are giving people who suspect that all Christians are self-righteous, hate...
by Raylan Givens
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:20 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Turning Christains into Atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 797

Re: Turning Christains into Atheists

When we left. We visited around a dozen churches over the course of ten months. We found the churches to be filled with nice loving people. Our girls had a nice time learning about other faiths. Ultimately, we decided we just aren’t church people. We are just too skeptical and don’t need the religio...
by Raylan Givens
Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:04 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Does your spouse know you post on NOM?
Replies: 29
Views: 1352

Re: Does your spouse know you post on NOM?

You are right that my wife had a very shallow idea of who I am as a person. During the divorce I mentioned to my mom that I didn't think my wife loved me any more. My mom, a very perceptive person, said "son, she never did". I think deep down I already knew that. I've been on NOM for 5-6 years and ...
by Raylan Givens
Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:41 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Breasts in the news
Replies: 31
Views: 1428

Re: Breasts in the news

Story seems really strange. First off, who in their right mind likes drywall dust on their bare skin? Second, who filed the charges or made the complaint? If I had to guess, it was the step children's Mom who heard about it from the step kids. Interesting case. Third, look at the picture that accom...