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by Raylan Givens
Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Grant Palmer's non-believing GA revealed
Replies: 31
Views: 15942

Re: Grant Palmer's non-believing GA revealed

blazerb wrote:Interesting. A lawsuit would have been fascinating. Probably no one would have been willing to go on record.
I would love to see this and where it goes. Two dead men’s words against each other.


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by Raylan Givens
Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Grant Palmer's non-believing GA revealed
Replies: 31
Views: 15942

Re: Grant Palmer's non-believing GA revealed

I hope John Dehlin gets his self-centered ass sued for this. This guy has a doctorate in psychology. Anyone with this position and even a minute amount of professionalism and ethics would never do this. I think JD realizes the Open Stories Foundation might no longer be sustainable. Especially with ...
by Raylan Givens
Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:16 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What does your avatar mean?
Replies: 36
Views: 25136

Re: What does your avatar mean?

Just me when I had more hair and my dog was a pup. Still in the Church, no kids, no money (but no overhead), a motorcycle, warm hot tub. Life was good.

I probably need to update my avatar with an updated photo. I am happy still, but more real, with a lot more experience.
by Raylan Givens
Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: Navy Chaplin
Replies: 9
Views: 6729

Re: Navy Chaplin

I understand. It is a struggle when you know how the sausage is made. I like to ask really firm believers (someone like the Chaplain) how they know their church/belief is true (ala. Anthony Magnabosco). I try to be sincere and really listen, it is always interesting to hear the different responses I...
by Raylan Givens
Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:09 am
Forum: Support
Topic: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?
Replies: 659
Views: 442636

Re: What are you doing to protect your family against the virus?

A large pack of macaroni and cheese. I also have two happy dogs IF needed for more protein ;) I have a bunch of R95 masks from when I spray paint things. Lots of hand sanitizer because I am surrounded by gross teenage students all day long. This years group is super touchy, lots of hand holding and ...
by Raylan Givens
Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:48 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Navy Chaplin
Replies: 9
Views: 6729

Re: Navy Chaplin

That makes sense to me.

I wonder if he is noticing the same trends in other Christian denominations?

My view from the back of the chapel in my ward and the non-denominational church by my house, it is a sea of gray.
by Raylan Givens
Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:11 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: I’m Catholic now.
Replies: 11
Views: 5697

Re: I’m Catholic now.

Cool. Congratulations.

Hope you find meaning in your worship. I don’t think I could. I did look over your blog post, sounds like it was a good journey for you. Just don’t post it on the NOM of Catholics website ;)
by Raylan Givens
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:47 pm
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: do I want to catch the monkey?
Replies: 35
Views: 31463

Re: do I want to catch the monkey?

Wow. This brought up feelings. My shelf crashed years before My wife’s. Her heavy shelf item wasn’t about the Church being true. It was about God in general. Very different than mine. She then moved onto the Church and is surgically dissecting it. She is now resigned. She decided one day, and just d...
by Raylan Givens
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:38 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Netflix Messiah
Replies: 10
Views: 8467

Netflix Messiah

I am about 3/4 the way through the Messiah on Netflix. I find it very compelling and well shot and acted. It is produced by Mark Burnett (big time evangelical), but so far quite gripping.
by Raylan Givens
Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:35 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?
Replies: 18
Views: 11690

Re: Why did Joseph Smith return from Iowa to go to Carthage?

I think the story is that the note basically said that the members in Nauvoo were saying they felt abandoned that he left that defenseless and that they thought he was a coward. I don't know how reliable sources are on that - I need to see if I can find those for you. I've heard the same. I believe...
by Raylan Givens
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:24 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Extended Family Relationships
Replies: 15
Views: 9502

Re: Extended Family Relationships

My wife was told on a very public Facebook post by my SIL. That she has a bad feeling in our home and that it is because we are now lacking the spirit. She also let me wife know she was disappointed in how we are raising our adopted daughter with a severe mood disorder. “You guys are just too strict...
by Raylan Givens
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Hymns
Replies: 16
Views: 7739

Re: New Hymns

I stand all amazed at the funds Nelson earned from me Confused at the interest and dividends kept from me I tremble to know that no funds were tax quantified That for me a tither I paid them and sacrificed Oh, it is profitable that Nelson cares for me Enough to tithe from me! Oh, it is profitable, ...
by Raylan Givens
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:19 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: New Hymns
Replies: 16
Views: 7739

Re: New Hymns

Praise to the men who commune with accountants
by Raylan Givens
Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:17 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Why would you want to help the needy ?
Replies: 19
Views: 10922

Re: Why would you want to help the needy ?

I wonder if your request would get more traction now.

My BIL who is very hardcore TBM mentioned If he is ever made BP, knowing about the 100 billion, he will help as many people as he can financially or with other needs (medical etc.)
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Are You Spiritual
Replies: 25
Views: 14077

Re: Are You Spiritual

I don’t think you are alone. I feel the “spirit” more by watching Steve Hart’s segment on CBS Sunday Morning than I ever did in Sacrament meeting.
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel saves a baby!
Replies: 9
Views: 4746

Re: Bill Reel saves a baby!

This one made my week. Nice Bill!

That man can dig, open him up a spot as the token apostate on the All Region Church Volleyball team.
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:40 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Just Be Kind for a Month
Replies: 3
Views: 2247

Re: Just Be Kind for a Month

I would hope the goal is always kindness and patience for our spouse. Could you imagine someone getting up, “i decided to be a dick for a month to my husband/wife to see what would happen...”

I do agree it is weird to think about things from the other side of the coin.
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:33 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint
Replies: 165
Views: 89185

Re: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint

What has me confused is why the church needs billions at the second coming? Why not feed the hungry now? Clean water? Vaccinate the entire world? But that’s not the way corporations work. Jesus will send a massive text message letting everyone know he is cashing out his options. Get that luxury jet...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:29 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint
Replies: 165
Views: 89185

Re: Whistle Blower Files IRS Complaint

I bet it is all “technically” legal and just skirts on the right side of the line. The Church is pretty damn smart with money. They hired the best accounting firms to diversify (hide) funds. So even if you knock down one wall, there are a dozen others you have to take out. This is another example wh...
by Raylan Givens
Mon Dec 16, 2019 10:22 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: My son is posting anti information on FB now.
Replies: 27
Views: 13664

Re: My son is posting anti information on FB now.

It's happened. My other son posted a comment that basically said pres. Oaks is a d i c k, with a emoji of a zucchini. I can't bear this, I'm sorry. I texted the son that is anti and asked him to take it down, but if he didn't I would understand. I feel helpless now. My kids don't mince words and th...