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by Reuben
Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:36 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Really good article: "Facts Don’t Change People’s Minds. Here’s What Does"
Replies: 8
Views: 197

Re: Really good article: "Facts Don’t Change People’s Minds. Here’s What Does"

This "giving the mind an out" is an interesting concept. Someone smarter than me please give me an example of how to do that with believing mormon s. :D Blaming the culture instead of the doctrine or leaders is pretty common among believers. "Ah, that must have been part of the blood and sins of th...
by Reuben
Sat Feb 16, 2019 7:18 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Unexpected and Unsolicited Spiritual Experience
Replies: 12
Views: 305

Re: Unexpected and Unsolicited Spiritual Experience

Easter Sunday, 2018. Attended an Anglican service. During communion, the whole congregation softly sang Hallelujah to the same four chords repeatedly. I can hardly describe the feeling. A few months later, I had a difficult couple of weeks at work and took a sick day to recover. It was the kind of t...
by Reuben
Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:08 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Hypothetical Ethics
Replies: 2
Views: 64

Re: Hypothetical Ethics

C. Make the cake so you can think of yourself as being less bigoted, which might help it become true. D. Don't make the cake because you know you wouldn't be able to stop yourself from writing homophobic slurs in ketchup between the layers. D. Don't make the cake because you see yourself as a loyal ...
by Reuben
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:05 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Bad movie night is the best night
Replies: 21
Views: 279

Re: Bad movie night is the best night

I can't believe Strange Brew has not been mentioned yet in a bad movie thread. What. That's on my good movie list, hoser. Ok then. Should we put it on the good , bad movie list? Take Off! https://media.giphy.com/media/119zR8FNY0h6lq/giphy.gif :lol: :lol: :lol: Shouldn't have shown Short Circuit ton...
by Reuben
Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:47 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: What Would It Take to Keep You?
Replies: 18
Views: 344

Re: What Would It Take to Keep You?

I would nail a list of exactly two items to the door. Stop teaching members to have pride on behalf of the church. Stop making God out to be a judgmental, obsessive-compulsive, narcissistic asshole. I don't really care to defend God, because I don't know if one exists or is worth worshipping. The pr...
by Reuben
Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Transitional underwear
Replies: 15
Views: 397

Re: Transitional underwear

HOWEVER, despite it being a miserable, traumatic experience that dragged on for months and interfered with my marriage and most intimate moment to and feelings, taking them off still feels like an enormous triumph, and I feel good about it every time I think about it. It's seriously one of the very...
by Reuben
Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:08 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Bad movie night is the best night
Replies: 21
Views: 279

Re: Bad movie night is the best night

wtfluff wrote:
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:41 am
I can't believe Strange Brew has not been mentioned yet in a bad movie thread.
What.

That's on my good movie list, hoser.
by Reuben
Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:57 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Bad movie night is the best night
Replies: 21
Views: 279

Re: Bad movie night is the best night

I'd have to place The Last Jedi on this list. I still can't get over the slow super drawn out unrealistic chase to the secret rebel base, frozen princess Leia, the astro-projected Luke and so many other dumb things they didn't need to do to insult my intelligence. Force Awakens wasn't terrible, exc...
by Reuben
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Bad movie night is the best night
Replies: 21
Views: 279

Bad movie night is the best night

It started with Mystery Science Theater 3000 - I had always wanted to get into that show - and it snowballed from there. Now every other Friday night is bad movie night . We watch the refuse from the bottom of the refuse pile, where the movies are much less movie than dripping compost. And it's amaz...
by Reuben
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:24 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Greatest Film Series Of All Time Gets Long Anticipated Sequel
Replies: 13
Views: 258

Re: Greatest Film Series Of All Time Gets Long Anticipated Sequel

They have liked most of the old movies I’ve shown them.... but they hated The Last Starfighter (booooooo). How is that possible??? If you really want to yank their chains, tell them you just remembered one of your favorite old movies, and show them Mac and Me . Your relationship will never be the s...
by Reuben
Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:21 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: The only good option to replace "Mormon"...
Replies: 9
Views: 295

Re: The only good option to replace "Mormon"...

Hagoth, why did you choose Brighamite over Josephite? If the Church would like to steer itself a bit closer to traditional Christianity, the best name I've heard has been the Community of Christ. That name has its own built-in neurolinguistic programming (but I suppose Brighamite and Josephite also...
by Reuben
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:47 am
Forum: Mixed Faith Relationships
Topic: Today she said...
Replies: 5
Views: 259

Re: Today she said...

Same here. I'm convinced that most members like us, who can't make ourselves believe the church's claims, could happily stay in it if we felt like we had some minimal support and could pivot to having faith in the goodness we find inside of it. Heck, almost everyone tries to find a way to happily st...
by Reuben
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:22 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: a creator god vs a moral god
Replies: 4
Views: 140

Re: a creator god vs a moral god

I hadn't understood the garden story that way before, alas, so thanks. It fits into my neat mental framework of the God of the Kitchen Sink. I've thought for a while now that God often comes off as a narcissistic, obsessive, unstable, controlling a**hole because the descendants of polytheists tried ...
by Reuben
Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:12 am
Forum: Support
Topic: To stand or not to stand
Replies: 14
Views: 415

To stand or not to stand

Background: I haven't attended a Mormon church in about 15 months. I'm on good terms with the ward leadership. My wife gave a great talk in sacrament meeting a few months ago in which she outed me as an unbeliever - with my blessing. I rarely see old friends from the ward. Yesterday, my wife accepte...
by Reuben
Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dallin Oaks: “I suggest that research is not the answer"
Replies: 40
Views: 990

Re: Dallin Oaks: “I suggest that research is not the answer"

And follow that up with some of the other quotes in that article about finding it hard to love people who live differently... hoo boy. I wonder if interpreting that statement is overly subject to negativity bias. “We are taught to love our neighbors, but it is not easy to love and live with those w...
by Reuben
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:53 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: BYU and Higher Education Rule Changes - Freedom to Discriminate?
Replies: 6
Views: 190

Re: BYU and Higher Education Rule Changes - Freedom to Discriminate?

Sounds like they will no longer be required to teach evolution in order to be accredited to teach science. Yikes for the whole country. Accrediting insitutions for biological sciences (and many others) will fight this tooth and nail, as they should. You can't be any kind of biologist without studyi...
by Reuben
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:30 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Dallin Oaks: “I suggest that research is not the answer"
Replies: 40
Views: 990

Re: Dallin Oaks: “I suggest that research is not the answer"

And follow that up with some of the other quotes in that article about finding it hard to love people who live differently... hoo boy. I wonder if interpreting that statement is overly subject to negativity bias. “We are taught to love our neighbors, but it is not easy to love and live with those w...
by Reuben
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:06 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Lazy Theology and Selective Scripture Reading
Replies: 26
Views: 513

Re: Lazy Theology and Selective Scripture Reading

You should have seen the panicked look in the eyes of the adult leaders who were present. Oh.....deer in headlights I bet. :D It's also fun to point out that Elder Uchtdorf frequently quotes from and references the NIV. I did this to my very rigid YM first counselor once. "Gasping fish" best descri...
by Reuben
Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Catalyst Theory Strikes Again
Replies: 11
Views: 294

Re: Catalyst Theory Strikes Again

Is there a way to falsify a catalyst theory? Or is being incredulous the best we can do?
by Reuben
Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:57 am
Forum: Support
Topic: The Covenant Hand?
Replies: 18
Views: 373

Re: The Covenant Hand?

Mormonism: Putting the Old Testament back into Christianity since 1830.

Mormonism: Unfulfilling the Law of Moses, one vain little rule at a time.

I can't help imagining Jesus rebelling against this by taking the sacrament with his left foot.