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by Reuben
Sun May 16, 2021 5:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 145
Views: 7602

Re: Forced Turning Point

Maybe a counterpoint to the oh-so-serious Jesus in all the Mormon artwork: https://www.art4god.com/store/joy-to-the-world
by Reuben
Sat May 15, 2021 7:56 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Radio West - Doubt
Replies: 5
Views: 223

Re: Radio West - Doubt

I started listening to this, but haven’t finished. Is doubt among other churches or other groups as pervasive and critically viewed as in Mormonism? I know it is among Jehovah's Witnesses. I suspect it is in any fundamentalist group; i.e. those in which a person's worth is tied to their belief in t...
by Reuben
Sat May 15, 2021 2:10 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: I Learned How to Judge as a Mormon
Replies: 9
Views: 184

Re: I Learned How to Judge as a Mormon

I think the church teaches members to judge themselves first and foremost, and that for most members, all other judgment flows from that. When I let go of judging myself - when I realized I was terrible at it, and the commandment to "judge not" applied just as easily to self-judgment - I largely sto...
by Reuben
Wed May 12, 2021 4:57 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Keys To Sexuality
Replies: 18
Views: 926

Re: Keys To Sexuality

That meme is creepy to me. It would lead to the logical conclusion that Jesus is a voyeur... Jesus and your ancestors... Joseph Smith on the spirits of the just: Enveloped in flaming fire, they are not far from us, and know and understand our thoughts, feelings and motions, and are often pained the...
by Reuben
Fri May 07, 2021 3:44 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Keys To Sexuality
Replies: 18
Views: 926

Re: Keys To Sexuality

Apparently this meme is 7 years old, but it's new to me and seems to apply here. Just replace Jesus' face with whoever is trying to control your sexuality. Mom, is that you? https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/020/852/forgot_to_ask_thumb.png I could imagine President Nelson's face on i...
by Reuben
Tue May 04, 2021 12:45 pm
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: 3 times Best Burger in World Winner
Replies: 5
Views: 158

Re: 3 times Best Burger in World Winner

Those look like they taste amazing.

I dunno if l could call them the best burger in the world, though. Maybe if they put the patties between two grilled cheese sandwiches instead of in a bun...

I've actually had that. With bacon. It was so wrong. I loved every artery-clogging bite.
by Reuben
Tue May 04, 2021 1:14 am
Forum: The Coffee Shop
Topic: Rise of the "Nones"
Replies: 8
Views: 493

Re: Rise of the "Nones"

If you were to free your mind to choose and create your own version of heaven, what would it look like? Mine - a mountain community of friends and neighbors, a Thomas Kincade house near river and hot springs. A sandy path to the ocean. It's what I visualize when someone dies, what I imagine before ...
by Reuben
Mon May 03, 2021 3:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: What do you believe about it now?
Replies: 25
Views: 787

Re: What do you believe about it now?

I think Mormonism was started by a man with something to prove and a casual relationship with reality, who got caught up in his own lies. It was continued by men who liked the power it gave them and managed to convince themselves they were doing God's work. Over the years it has accrued the delusion...
by Reuben
Mon May 03, 2021 2:52 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: God vs Satan
Replies: 12
Views: 436

Re: God vs Satan

Given that 10% of our DNA comes from viruses and some of it confers crucial benefits (https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161128151050.htm), I can't call the process itself good or evil. Like most things in nature, it is what it is. Covid is an artifact of the process that seems to do noth...
by Reuben
Sun May 02, 2021 4:26 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Is forgiveness required?
Replies: 19
Views: 643

Re: Is forgiveness required?

Cue Palerider in 3... 2... 1... heck, I'll do it. One of the most useful things I learned here at NOM I learned from Palerider: the difference between forgiving and reconciling. Forgiving can be helpful, as alas points out, when the threat has passed. It can be done without the injuring party's help...
by Reuben
Tue Apr 27, 2021 3:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: I may have just seen a heavenly visitor??
Replies: 11
Views: 559

Re: I may have just seen a heavenly visitor??

Where did the bad man touch you?
by Reuben
Fri Apr 23, 2021 5:39 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Who’s next on the excommunication list?
Replies: 25
Views: 1039

Re: Who’s next on the excommunication list?

I struggle with understanding why people do not just remove their name. (This is what I did, fairly painless process). For all the complaining, do those who stay think some part of it is true? which part do they think is true? Is it only possible to change culture from within the organization and n...
by Reuben
Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:37 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New Thread -- Natasha got exed
Replies: 15
Views: 662

Re: New Thread -- Netasha got exed

I think those boys at the top are extremely thin skinned and if you say anything contrary to their pet policies and say it's idiotic in the process, you get booted out of the club. Just the boys at the top? The entire church is thin-skinned when it comes to the church. It's almost like they know so...
by Reuben
Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:36 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Paragraph 4 is amazing. Summary: "We value diversity of opinion in matters of doctrine and belief, as long as you keep it to yourself." Really? Then how does that diversity actually function, idiots?

It's 1984-level doublethink.
by Reuben
Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:07 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Absolutely insane... from Anthony Miller: Update: Natasha’s pre-approved witnesses (including active members of the Church) were not allowed into the building to use the restroom. Natasha had all her notes on her phone with the remarks she wanted to share, and the Stake President required that she ...
by Reuben
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:32 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

Third point. Stupid, stupid, stupid. (Insert long rant about what kind of position this puts all mental health experts in) kind of the same as demanding doctors harm patients or get in trouble with the church. Nelson would get it if he was put in a position of violating his Hippocratic oath or get ...
by Reuben
Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:22 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Did Natasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?
Replies: 82
Views: 3424

Re: Did Netasha Helfer-Parker get Exed?

If you really want a good read (I won't link the Facebook page, I'm still not sure of the rules for doing that here on NOM) but take a look at the Mormon Stories Facebook page, and read the letter that Mormon therapists such as Jennifer Finlayson Fife, Maxine Hanks and others have written to the st...
by Reuben
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Forced Turning Point
Replies: 145
Views: 7602

Re: Forced Turning Point

As with the rest of your NOM ward, I also sustain you as bishop. Your story will go down in NOM history as cautionary tale about how you might still end up in ward leadership due to the blind bureaucracy of LDS general leadership. I will need to make my coffee drinking more public so I don't get pu...
by Reuben
Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:10 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Just when I think I've heard it all !!!
Replies: 13
Views: 666

Re: Just when I think I've heard it all !!!

I'm sure my idea of heaven would be hell to most Mormons. It would probably consists of rowing and sailing small boats between islands on a desert lake where you join small crowds for barbeques, H. P. Lovecraft reading clubs, sci-fi movie previews, hippy music jams, star parties... and rivers of en...
by Reuben
Fri Apr 09, 2021 1:46 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church updates handbook.
Replies: 21
Views: 1168

Re: Church updates handbook.

If you recall, awhile back they merged the High Priests and the Elders Quorum into just the Elders Quorum. But still promote leaders to High Priests. As far as I can remember the Bishop 3 were always made high Priests. Maybe not in student wards those. I never made it that far so don’t know for sur...