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by Ben Davis
Mon Dec 17, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel RFM Recording
Replies: 6
Views: 4593

Re: Bill Reel RFM Recording

Recording is pretty hard to listen to. Next best thing is to read the transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/s/iqrggr1shrkzpgb/Transcript%20of%20Bill%20Reel%27s%20Disciplinary%20Proceedings.pdf?dl=0 That doesn't help much either: "Your questions and concerns (chomp chomp chomp) have been the topic of ...
by Ben Davis
Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:49 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel RFM Recording
Replies: 6
Views: 4593

Bill Reel RFM Recording

I can’t seem to get a clean copy of the recording.
In the recording I have Bill is almost indiscernible, kind sounds like whoever had the mike was chomping on cheese puffs. Anyone found a good way to filter that out or have a clean copy?

Thanks in advance.
by Ben Davis
Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church vandalized
Replies: 10
Views: 5228

Re: Church vandalized

Palerider wrote:
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:25 pm
“...Surprise Police Department spokesman."

Sounds like they were expecting someone else, lol.
by Ben Davis
Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:09 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Church seeks MTC case to be dismissed
Replies: 18
Views: 9418

Re: Church seeks MTC case to be dismissed

I can see your point of view. I have my opinions about what happened but equally important to me is the way the “official” (COB?) church is handling the situation.
by Ben Davis
Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:29 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: "I didn't know I needed an apology until I read that hoax."
Replies: 11
Views: 8978

Re: "I didn't know I needed an apology until I read that hoax."

Current doctrine says that the church can do no permanent wrong because it's led by God himself. Therefore, its members are entirely responsible for trusting the church and its leaders. Why would someone who doesn't even feel responsible for maintaining your trust do anything to repair it? It was y...
by Ben Davis
Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:12 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: LDS corp reading posts and following people
Replies: 24
Views: 12300

Re: LDS corp reading posts and following people

I’m not crazy about the idea of surveillance. Hate it actually. I would say however that it is good journalism to do research in order to stay relevant by producing articles on subjects folks are talking about. Leading the conversation to feed confirmation bias of believers instead of asking to thin...
by Ben Davis
Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: New EQ/HPG
Replies: 4
Views: 2728

Re: New EQ/HPG

I hated going to EQ before the switch. I’m am loving it now. Maybe it’s just the right leadership and I get along pretty well with all the folks in there. It’s also a small ward and quorum. About ministering, I like the switch of focus to qualitative reporting from quantitative reporting. I don’t ha...
by Ben Davis
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:00 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Brushes with "the other side"?
Replies: 209
Views: 157986

Re: Brushes with "the other side"?

While I was on my mission I had a dream in which a friend of mine from highscool came to say goodbye. Hey said that he wished we would have hung out more etc. then we parted ways. It was really cool cause it felt like I had actually hung out with the guy for a few moments as he was clearly on his wa...
by Ben Davis
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:48 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Buckle up, apocalypse imminent!
Replies: 52
Views: 29753

Re: Buckle up, apocalypse imminent!

The end has been nigh for ~200 years in Mormonism. Can’t help but SMH and wonder how this inspires urgency to this day.
by Ben Davis
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:25 am
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: Nuancing the recommend
Replies: 20
Views: 12195

Re: Nuancing the recommend

I have no problems answering the questions with the appropriate answers. If the church can push forward a faithful history, then so can I. If the church can hide it's unsightly deeds, then so can I. In my heart I know I have more integrity than the church ever will. This is demonstrated by the late...
by Ben Davis
Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:48 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: At which point is someone a full tithe payer (rhetorical)
Replies: 16
Views: 10194

Re: At which point is someone a full tithe payer (rhetorical)

AdmiralHoldo my wife is TBM and I discussed the original meaning of “increase” and her knowing the doctrinal grey area that tithing is (no clear direction from the church exists) she was fine with it. Folks falling on hard times weren’t meant to pay etc. Check out this article if you haven’t already...
by Ben Davis
Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:08 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: At which point is someone a full tithe payer (rhetorical)
Replies: 16
Views: 10194

Re: At which point is someone a full tithe payer (rhetorical)

What a weenie! If I were you, I would just pay directly to the church online. That way you cut out the middle man and then just tell the guy "Yup I pay full tithing online". None of his business anyway. Yes I think everyone interested should. I set up then paid anonymously and will from here on out...
by Ben Davis
Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:55 pm
Forum: Doctrinal Discussion
Topic: At which point is someone a full tithe payer (rhetorical)
Replies: 16
Views: 10194

At which point is someone a full tithe payer (rhetorical)

So as you may know from some of my other posts here I began the road back into full activity a few months ago. For me, the final big step was tithing. I haven’t paid in YEARS but prior had always been a full tithe payer. This past week I paid tithing and it felt great. HOWEVER, I went in for a recom...
by Ben Davis
Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:52 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Is it possible to have meaningful discussion about the gospel on a weekly basis?
Replies: 3
Views: 3659

Re: Is it possible to have meaningful discussion about the gospel on a weekly basis?

These are great insights. I’ve been thinking about this topic and both of your comments the past several weeks and think I’m going to try to gracefully push towards nuance and explorative thinking In these discussions by using some of Brian Eno’s Oblique Strategies. Not all will Work but some will h...
by Ben Davis
Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:31 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Online Tithing
Replies: 41
Views: 78908

Re: Online Tithing

A while back I emailed HQ about anonymous donations and here’s what I got: Hello, If you are looking to make anonymous donations, you can send a cashiers check or cash. Mailing instructions are attached. If you are looking to make donations NON-visible to the Ward/Stake/Branch level, instructions ar...
by Ben Davis
Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:20 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: TM wife considering tithe on surplus
Replies: 16
Views: 11817

Re: TM wife considering tithe on surplus

A New Name wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:10 pm
Read this at Pure Mormonism before you talk to your wife. If will give you historical ammunition on why paying on surplus has merit.
This is a fantastic article. Thanks for sharing.
by Ben Davis
Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:37 pm
Forum: Staying Faithful
Topic: Is it possible to have meaningful discussion about the gospel on a weekly basis?
Replies: 3
Views: 3659

Is it possible to have meaningful discussion about the gospel on a weekly basis?

At first I was really excited about the church positioning EQ lessons as discussions, but I find myself super bored as the gospel is a topic we must all conform to and anything but that isn’t culturally acceptable...the other half of this is that I get most excited talking about new ideas, creating ...
by Ben Davis
Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Garments
Replies: 39
Views: 40525

Re: Garments

Had the same thought. Best of luck Ben. Hope you find what your life is missing in the tribe. Oh, and don’t forget your checkbook. They’ll be wanting a chunk of that. Ah yes, tithing...still not sold on this one. I'm weaning myself off coffee, but tithing is a tough one. Still not paying. Not sure ...
by Ben Davis
Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:15 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Garments
Replies: 39
Views: 40525

Re: Garments

Wait... they made garments even longer? Suddenly holding on to underwear that's old enough to drink is paying off. Maybe I should buy some new Gs before they go back to ankle length. This made me think of my fav garm whitening recipe. I got it off Pintrest. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/23313171819...
by Ben Davis
Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:12 pm
Forum: Support
Topic: Garments
Replies: 39
Views: 40525

Re: Garments

Sorry I can't help with the garment question because I stopped wearing back in 2011 but I do have to ask ....What were your reasons for not believing in the church and what happened to make you believe again? I stopped wearing in 2011 too. The tl;dr is: Basically was going on faith for many years. ...